Biological Male Claims to Have Period Cramps

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

There's a lot of stuff around this subject that is far reaching, and acceptance for trans people has asked a lot of gen pop in terms of mental gymnastics. it doesn't need to, but we're here.

But another question I have--is this just a fringe sect of Trans Activists or is it the large population of trans/non binary people who are doing things like this?

Because if it's just a fringe sect, then we don't need to amplify stuff like this. Chaya Raichik likes to find the craziest videos, and even doctors videos to show how "crazy" the trans community is. She even stated on tucker Carlson that she believes the LGBTQ Community is "evil". I don't believe that LGBTQ community is evil at all--and it's textbook stereotyping to equate the actions of a few with the whole.

The trans/nb people I know in my own life, are not nearly as performative and dramatic and frankly, crazy as the people Libs of Tik Tok find online. I've never heard a trans woman complaining about a non existent period irl. The nonbinary people I know aren't concerned about policing pronouns the way others are. One I work with always makes a gentle point of that, they just want the space to be themselves, not to make anyone feel bad for making a mistake.

Painting the entire trans community as selfish, crazy or evil due to the actions of a few is dangerous and we should watch it when it appears that it is what people are doing.

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

From "Six Trans Women Talk About Menstruation":

It’s a common experience for people who menstruate to complain to each other about their periods — the cramping and mood swings that affect their days. Many of the transgender women we spoke to say that as cathartic as complaining about your period can be, for them it’s also validating.

For Aurelia, complaining about her PMS symptoms to a friend helped her realize that’s what they were. “I was talking with one of my dear friends about feeling bloaty and crampy and I hadn't quite figured out what was happening yet. And they said, ‘Oh, you're having your period,’” she says. That conversation led to her friend giving tips about how to manage her period.

Meghan’s period confidant is her wife, who will notice her mood swings and make fun of her. “She’ll say ‘I know you're on your period because you’re being moody, you're emotional,’' Meghan says. She says comments like this feel “strangely validating” and “wonderful.”

Link:periodaisle.com/blogs/all/6-transgende...

I know I'm supposed to feel all outraged by this as a cis woman...but I honestly don't care.

who cares how they discuss their HRT symptoms? why does it affect me?

anyways, in all ways we can, we have to try and live and let live.

working_dc_runnermom wrote:

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

There's a lot of stuff around this subject that is far reaching, and acceptance for trans people has asked a lot of gen pop in terms of mental gymnastics. it doesn't need to, but we're here.

But another question I have--is this just a fringe sect of Trans Activists or is it the large population of trans/non binary people who are doing things like this?

Because if it's just a fringe sect, then we don't need to amplify stuff like this. Chaya Raichik likes to find the craziest videos, and even doctors videos to show how "crazy" the trans community is. She even stated on tucker Carlson that she believes the LGBTQ Community is "evil". I don't believe that LGBTQ community is evil at all--and it's textbook stereotyping to equate the actions of a few with the whole.

The trans/nb people I know in my own life, are not nearly as performative and dramatic and frankly, crazy as the people Libs of Tik Tok find online. I've never heard a trans woman complaining about a non existent period irl. The nonbinary people I know aren't concerned about policing pronouns the way others are. One I work with always makes a gentle point of that, they just want the space to be themselves, not to make anyone feel bad for making a mistake.

Painting the entire trans community as selfish, crazy or evil due to the actions of a few is dangerous and we should watch it when it appears that it is what people are doing.

I enjoyed your post and agree the most crazy examples are often highlighted. But both sides do this. You wrote, "I don't believe that LGBTQ community is evil at all--and it's textbook stereotyping to equate the actions of a few with the whole."

But the left does the exact same thing to the conservatives.

"I don't believe that conserviate community is evil --and it's textbook stereotyping to equate the actions of a few with the whole."

If someone on the right doesn't want their public school teachers teaching their 1st grader about the sex, they are labelled as a bigot.

If they dont' repeat "a trans woman is a woman" and agree that trans women should be in wmmen's sports, they are labelled as a bigot.

Yes, some of them are bigots but the vast, vast majority of them are not.

On page 2, you wrote, "Can't we have a reasonable debate about the fairness of trans women competing against cis women without denigrating their very right to exist and be human?"

We can't have that debate unfortunately because the left is totally intolerant. They don't believe the conservatives have a right to exist. If they don't say a trans woman is a woman, the left immediately tries to ruin their lives.

Not a single NCAA swimmer refused to participate against Lia Thomas as they were scared to death of being labelled a bigot.

PS. It's hard not to focus on the extreme cases when people like Dylan Mulvaney are invited to the White House.

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TALTibOdE0

RunRagged wrote:

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

I know I'm supposed to feel all outraged by this as a cis woman...but I honestly don't care.

who cares how they discuss their HRT symptoms? why does it affect me?

anyways, in all ways we can, we have to try and live and let live.

But live and let live should work both ways, right? These people are not merely discussing the symptoms of the medications they choose to take. No one would care if that's all they did and if they used terminology specific to what they personally are going through.But that's not what they're doing. These male people are claiming in magazine articles, videos and all over social media that they have menstrual periods, menstrual cramps and pre-menstrual syndrome. Coz it's "validating" to their self-images and fantasies.

Some people see this as offensive appropriation of other people's "lived experience" - an often difficult and painful lived experience that girls and women not only have suffered through and had to cope with since time immemorial, but which girls and women in cultures round the world over the course of history have been shamed, stigmatized, ostracized, locked up, restricted and punished for, discriminated against, and turned into social pariahs for, too. Even today, there are places in the world were menstruating girls and women are banished from their homes to prison-like menstrual huts for the duration of their periods - or they are not allowed to enter the kitchens in their homes, to engage in worship and other group activities, to eat with their families, or to sleep in their regular beds.

To me, males claiming they have periods, menstrual cramps and PMS is along the lines of a person with chest congestion claiming to have cystic fibrosis, a civilian engaging in military stolen valor, or a fabulist like George Santos saying his mother died in 9-11, he and his family are Jewish and his grandparents fled the Holocaust.

Also, none of these persons are on "HRT."

HRT stands for "hormone replacement therapy." The term and acronym were coined to describe the hormones women sometimes take during menopause to replace the sex hormones our bodies stop making when our ovaries start shutting down. Women on HRT for menopause take estrogen (or estrogen and progesterone) in amounts lower than the amounts our bodies naturally made in our peak reproductive years.

By contrast, males who who take T suppressants and exogenous estrogen for reasons of "gender transition" are not replacing any hormones their bodies once naturally made and need to replace to counteract physical dysfunction. Males also take much higher doses of estrogen for "gender transition" than would ever be prescribed to menopausal women. Males do this for the cosmetic changes that estrogen brings them, particularly the breast development and help in staving off male pattern baldness. That's very different to women taking HRT in order to treat debilitating physical problems that come with or after menopause like hot flushes, UTIs, insomnia, night sweats, osteoporosis, vaginal atrophy, urinary incontinence and memory loss.

RunRagged wrote:

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

Well, you as a woman are very passionate about something I'm just not that passionate about.

again--is this a widespread issue with trans women? or is this a few trying to make the whole lot look crazy?

one thing about being a cis woman I am thankful for, is that no one calls me being exactly who I am a fantasy. No one tries to tell me I'm Not A woman a million times a day, and writes paragraphs about it.

But if you were to go around in the press and on social media claiming you have physical discomfort and/or distress due to an enlarged prostate, blue balls, low sperm count, erectile dysfunction, Peyronie's disease or testicular cancer, I bet lots of people would call you a fantasist. And some blokes who've struggled with those health issues would most likely take offense at you appropriating/co-opting their problems and pretending you are affected by those issues just as much as many members of the male sex are.

Most likely, others would also tell you that because you're female, it means you don't have and never can have body parts and health problems that are unique to males.

Someone on a social media forum might even write paragraphs about the woman whose sense of self is so wrapped up in fantasy that she claims to have prostate troubles and blue balls too.

Deno wrote:

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

I share the opinion that trans women have unfair advantages in sports, but I guess I'm not a trans alarmist. I don't think everything about trans people is scary and evil and demonic.

The sports debate can be had, but so quickly the side that I agree with devolves into simply asserting that trans women are not worthy and don't exist. Can't we have a reasonable debate about the fairness of trans women competing against cis women without denigrating their very right to exist and be human?

Because if we can't then in my view, we've totally lost this debate.

What is the title of this thread? We are talking trans/sports.

Doubt anyone really cares anything about this trans thing until it starts involving non trans people, only then do we have a problem. I wouldn't be cool with a daughter of mine vs some guy, how about you?

Have a track meet wit ohnly trans athletes involved, ok that will work.

RunRagged wrote:

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

Well, you as a woman are very passionate about something I'm just not that passionate about.

again--is this a widespread issue with trans women? or is this a few trying to make the whole lot look crazy?

one thing about being a cis woman I am thankful for, is that no one calls me being exactly who I am a fantasy. No one tries to tell me I'm Not A woman a million times a day, and writes paragraphs about it.

But if you were to go around in the press and on social media claiming you have physical discomfort and/or distress due to an enlarged prostate, blue balls, low sperm count, erectile dysfunction, Peyronie's disease or testicular cancer, I bet lots of people would call you a fantasist. And some blokes who've struggled with those health issues would most likely take offense at you appropriating/co-opting their problems and pretending you are affected by those issues just as much as many members of the male sex are.

Most likely, others would also tell you that because you're female, it means you don't have and never can have body parts and health problems that are unique to males.

Someone on a social media forum might even write paragraphs about the woman whose sense of self is so wrapped up in fantasy that she claims to have prostate troubles and blue balls too.

oncearunnerrrrrr wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

But if you were to go around in the press and on social media claiming you have physical discomfort and/or distress due to an enlarged prostate, blue balls, low sperm count, erectile dysfunction, Peyronie's disease or testicular cancer, I bet lots of people would call you a fantasist. And some blokes who've struggled with those health issues would most likely take offense at you appropriating/co-opting their problems and pretending you are affected by those issues just as much as many members of the male sex are.

Most likely, others would also tell you that because you're female, it means you don't have and never can have body parts and health problems that are unique to males.

Someone on a social media forum might even write paragraphs about the woman whose sense of self is so wrapped up in fantasy that she claims to have prostate troubles and blue balls too.

But why does this OFFEND you so much? like why does this matter? what does this impinge on your day or your womanhood if someone is talking about a period they don't have? It's that anger I don't understand. Like wtf cares.