Biological Male Claims to Have Period Cramps

There is a close, complex connection between mind and body. Who are you to tell someone what they can or can’t feel?

One of our volunteer mods deleted this thread. We don't need a million threads on this topic but this is trending on twitter and has 10+ million views and I think pointing out the differences between sexes is important so I have reinstated it. I am going to require registration to post however.

Pointing out that a trans woman will never have a legitimate period or give birth isan important part of defending women's sports.

This is severe mental illness. We don't tell schizophrenics the voices they hear are real, and we shouldn't be telling people to permanently screw their physiology or development with hormone therapy unless there are legitimate deficiencies.

Let alone encourage them to mutilate their genitals.

I guess I believe in an adult having the freedom to so these things, but a culture that cheers them on is rotten to the core.

Menstrual/period cramps come from the uterus. A person who doesn't have a uterus can't feel them.

Women who are of pre-menopause age who've had their uterus removed but kept one or both ovaries intact will still ovulate and go through the various hormonal changes that occur during the average-28-day ovulation-menstrual cycle. This means they can feel the many discomforts that some women experience during the cycle, such as twinges of ovarian pain when ovulating and the host of symptoms that often occur in the 14 days after ovulation that are commonly known as "pre-menstrual" maladies, such as breast swelling and tenderness, water weight gain, mood changes and depression, insomnia, headaches, tiredness, nasal congestion, achy joints, GI tract distress, changes in appetite, food cravings. But such women will not menstruate, nor will they have any menstrual period cramps. Because those require a uterus.

It is the height of male appropriation and arrogance - and a profound insult to women and girls - for males to claim they have periods and menstrual cramps the way some males who call themselves transgender frequently do on social media these days.

There's a lot of stuff around this subject that is far reaching, and acceptance for trans people has asked a lot of gen pop in terms of mental gymnastics. it doesn't need to, but we're here.

But another question I have--is this just a fringe sect of Trans Activists or is it the large population of trans/non binary people who are doing things like this?

Because if it's just a fringe sect, then we don't need to amplify stuff like this. Chaya Raichik likes to find the craziest videos, and even doctors videos to show how "crazy" the trans community is. She even stated on tucker Carlson that she believes the LGBTQ Community is "evil". I don't believe that LGBTQ community is evil at all--and it's textbook stereotyping to equate the actions of a few with the whole.

The trans/nb people I know in my own life, are not nearly as performative and dramatic and frankly, crazy as the people Libs of Tik Tok find online. I've never heard a trans woman complaining about a non existent period irl. The nonbinary people I know aren't concerned about policing pronouns the way others are. One I work with always makes a gentle point of that, they just want the space to be themselves, not to make anyone feel bad for making a mistake.

Painting the entire trans community as selfish, crazy or evil due to the actions of a few is dangerous and we should watch it when it appears that it is what people are doing.

Transwomen undergoing hormone treatment can and do experience symptoms similar to PMS symptoms from hormone fluctuations. Not a period, per se, but there is a biological basis for the symptoms.

But the hormonal profiles of males undergoing hormone treatment for gender transition are nothing like the hormone profiles of females going through the ovulation-menstruation cycle. Even if they were, though, males and females have different hormone receptors, genetics, anatomy and physiology, which mean our bodies often respond to the same exact hormones in very different ways.

Most males undergoing hormone treatment because they identify as transgender take a heavy-duty testosterone suppressant and high-dose oral estrogen. They typically take these on a daily basis, the same amount every day (though quite a few will lay off the T suppressants at least occasionally because of the way suppressing T tends to interfere with male libido, arousal, erections and orgasm).

PMS symptoms in female people are caused by the sharp decrease of estrogen and sharp increase of progesterone that occurs in the two weeks after ovulation. The closer to our periods girls and women are, the lower our estrogen is.

Pray tell, how do males who take the same amount of high-dose exogenous estrogen every day - and no progesterone ever - experience PMS symptoms in their male bodies when these symptoms come from low estrogen and high progesterone in female bodies?

Sure there can be a biological basis for the supposed PMS symptoms these males say they are going through. Taking any kind of medication can produce unpleasant "side effects" ranging from tiredness to stomach ache, GI distress and loose stools. As men who've had to take anti-androgens for prostate cancer and male convicted sex offenders put on such drugs to chemically castrate them all can attest, hormonal medications that mess with the male endocrine system often have a host of negative "side effects." But that doesn't mean the symptoms of these side effects are PMS or similar to PMS.

For the record, female people go through many dramatic and extreme fluctuations in our sex hormones during our lives that are separate from our periods. For example, when we are pregnant, just prior to going into labor, during labor and childbirth, in the hours and days after giving birth or pregnancy loss, when our milk comes in, when breastfeeding and weaning, during menopause. But women don't go around claiming all these experiences are the same as, or similar to, PMS. Because they're not.

Her body, her choice.

I have no idea. But a number of vocal males who claim to be women and their allies have been saying for years now that males who take exogenous estrogen and medications to reduce their testosterone can and commonly do get periods and and period symptoms.

Article from 2016:

AMAB trans people can and do seem to experience period-like symptoms as a part of HRT. Just like cisgender women, our period experiences range from barely noticeable or almost nonexistent to debilitating. I haven’t identified a hormonal cycle of my own, but it was clear that others had, and they weren’t limited to feeling sad and wanting chocolate (though [a 24 year-old male trans-identified person named] Ashley did wryly note that she “had to be talked out of putting chocolate syrup on [her] hot dog” during a recent cycle).

Scientifically, I was puzzled; were these symptoms strictly psychosomatic, driven by knowing feminization of these individuals’ bodies? Or were they a direct result of the physiological effects of HRT, an awakening of latent femininity in AMAB bodies?

Hopefully, one of these days, the medical community will dive into the matter and confirm what Ashley already knows — that periods aren’t just for vaginas anymore.

theestablishment.co

Yes, Trans Women Can Get Period Symptoms

Sam Riedel

Why isn’t the medical community looking into this phenomenon?

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From "Six Trans Women Talk About Menstruation":

It’s a common experience for people who menstruate to complain to each other about their periods — the cramping and mood swings that affect their days. Many of the transgender women we spoke to say that as cathartic as complaining about your period can be, for them it’s also validating.

For Aurelia, complaining about her PMS symptoms to a friend helped her realize that’s what they were. “I was talking with one of my dear friends about feeling bloaty and crampy and I hadn't quite figured out what was happening yet. And they said, ‘Oh, you're having your period,’” she says. That conversation led to her friend giving tips about how to manage her period.

Meghan’s period confidant is her wife, who will notice her mood swings and make fun of her. “She’ll say ‘I know you're on your period because you’re being moody, you're emotional,’' Meghan says. She says comments like this feel “strangely validating” and “wonderful.”

periodaisle.com

6 Transgender Women Talk Menstruation

We spoke with six transgender women about their experiences with menstruation, from dysphoria to PMS.

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I know I'm supposed to feel all outraged by this as a cis woman...but I honestly don't care.

who cares how they discuss their HRT symptoms? why does it affect me?

anyways, in all ways we can, we have to try and live and let live.

Which brings us back to sports. Non-binary prize money and trans women athletes are not only robbing prizes and medals from females, but also tainting the credibility of female sports as a whole. It's a joke. One dominant trans athlete can affect the quality of 100's of competitor's seasons.

Thank you rojo!

Ah, but they’re not going to let me live and let live. I believe there are two sexes: men and women, no one else. I teach this to my children, and put them in a private school where they learn it. I don’t want ladies to have to compete against men, pretending to be girls.

these opinions run counter to the majority, and the secular liberals, who formed the elite of American culture. Their ideas are dominant. Just try expressing these opinions in academia, in a fortune 500 company. There is no live and let live.

Be whatever you need to be, but you must realize when it comes to sports now others are involved so it's no longer just about what you need. Now it's what is best for that sport. That can never been anything other than men vs men and women vs women. There is no place for transgender anything.

Thinking about going to a track meet to watch my daugter compete and standing beside her in a lane stands a guy. WHAT????

This has gotta stop, not a fan of the Middle East but I bet they don't put up with this crazyness.