Twenty years ago (2002) the fastest indoor 5K by an American was 13:44 by Brent Hauser and a total of 9 men ran under 14. The fastest outdoor time that year was 13:21 by Meb and second was Jorge Torres at 13:26.
Really…only 9 sub 14s indoors in 2002? Jeez.
US distance running was atrocious in the 90's/early 2000's. For some reason, we became obsessed with running less mileage and doing more speedwork and the results were terrible. If im not mistaken, there was a year in the '90s where not a single HS runner broke 9 in the 2 mile.
Hall/Ritz/Webb + Dyestat and Letsrun led a revolution during the 2000's. In recent years, social media & Youtube have democratized the dissemination of training information for coaches and athletes. Anyone with an internet connection can see what the top guys are doing, and apply it to their own training. My coach in HS didn't even know what a tempo run was, there is absolutely no excuse for that these days with all the information available. And sure, spikes explain some of the impact, but only a small amount.
In recent years, social media & Youtube have democratized the dissemination of training information for coaches and athletes. Anyone with an internet connection can see what the top guys are doing, and apply it to their own training. My coach in HS didn't even know what a tempo run was, there is absolutely no excuse for that these days with all the information available. And sure, spikes explain some of the impact, but only a small amount.
This. I often lament that my running career would have been totally different in this era (I was in that 90s cohort), and it’s my computer, not the shoes, that would have made the difference.
US distance running was atrocious in the 90's/early 2000's. For some reason, we became obsessed with running less mileage and doing more speedwork and the results were terrible. If im not mistaken, there was a year in the '90s where not a single HS runner broke 9 in the 2 mile.
Hall/Ritz/Webb + Dyestat and Letsrun led a revolution during the 2000's. In recent years, social media & Youtube have democratized the dissemination of training information for coaches and athletes. Anyone with an internet connection can see what the top guys are doing, and apply it to their own training. My coach in HS didn't even know what a tempo run was, there is absolutely no excuse for that these days with all the information available. And sure, spikes explain some of the impact, but only a small amount.
I graduated college in 2002…for whatever reason I thought sub 14 was more comon…no 202X levels…I ran D3 so I guess I was really just paying attention to that scene
Drew and Nico ran 8-12 seconds faster than they did last year off of 10k fitness. They went on to score big points in the 5k & 3k last indoor after channeling into specific indoor training. People like you post on here thinking you know what goes on, when in reality you’re the same guy who boasts how his college teammates are gonna break sub 4, how they’re good enough to beat certain studs just to get their sh*T rocked and watched their teammates race out the back of the pack.
Twenty years ago (2002) the fastest indoor 5K by an American was 13:44 by Brent Hauser and a total of 9 men ran under 14. The fastest outdoor time that year was 13:21 by Meb and second was Jorge Torres at 13:26.
Remember that the majority of the tracks at that time were still that 200m tracks with drastically different spikes. As late as the 90’s 10 lap to the mile board tracks were still used. I remember when Indianapolis opened their indoor center, and it was shocking to me.
40% of all sub-13:20 5Ks in NCAA history were run today at this meet
This includes outdoors? Running on BU is often faster than outdoors because you get guaranteed perfect conditions to run fast (pacing, no wind, good temperature obviously). At above 800, there is no reason to distinguish an indoor performance at modern banked tracks from an outdoor one.
2or3 yrs. Ago when covid hit and indoor ncaa sent everyone home after arriving in Albuquerque, NAU was the predicted favorite to win. They had multiple qualifiers in mile, 3k, 5k, DMR. This years meet is again at altitude, so expect NAU to score big.
I count 8 collegians under 13:20. Wasn't that long ago that a 13:20 would mark you as a favorite for nationals. Now it might barely guarantee you get into the meet.
Yes . How was that possible ?? what has changed recently to bring about this amazing stat? Ohhh...right, lots of Base training during covid. My bad. [ eye roll]
[ super shoe + super track deniers, where you at?!]
You are being downvoted, but you are correct to bring it up. It is not always necessary to bring up super shoes/spikes if talking about a comparisons within a season. That can be tiresome. But when making historical comparisons, which seems to always be a thing here, denying the efficacy of super spikes is putting blinders on.
The exact benefit can be argued, and will be different for different people and spikes, but there IS a benefit. To the deniers, if you still race, why are you wearing supershoes/spikes, if you don't believe in them?
big lmao @ Neil Gourley getting smacked by a bunch of college kiddos.
13:16 is really excellent for a 1500m guy with good 800 speed. Jake Wightman and Josh Kerr could not run that fast and they hold Olympic bronze and world champs gold medals. Ovett didn't break 13:20, Coe and Cram did have the endurance to run that fast.