It's called liability. If you hurt yourself on that dude's watch and sue the school, it's his ass, especially if the track isn't locked up.
It's called liability. If you hurt yourself on that dude's watch and sue the school, it's his ass, especially if the track isn't locked up.
don't cry about it too much malmo you loser piece of shit. Sorry "kid", no one cares what you think.
i understand your situation 100%. ive been runnin workouts at my old HS track all this break too. it's also locked so i slide myself in through a gap. in the rare case somebody else comes up there at the same time im working out nobody has ever said anything about me leaving. infact when i was still running track for the HS the coach even encouraged us to sneak in and run over breaks and pointed out where you could do it. now i think about that saying and the fact that just like you im not hurting anything and am only getting a workout in should someone say anything to me. you have every right to be as pissed as you want at the school cop and definetly write that letter
I was going to mention that schools also usually have unlocked tennis courts since they are usually outside the fenced off area. There goes the "liability" argument.
Fat-sh*t. . hey the "school" cop verbally abused you. get the dumb ass fired or challenge him to a race!
Just another power-crazed rent-a-swine. Call his boss and report the swine's unprofessional conduct.
malmo wrote:
Kid. It's not your track. The Kampus Kops asked you to leave. You leave.
You are not the center of the universe. Your workout certainly can be done anywhere, and the roads are free. Use them.
You're right about one, and only one thing. This is typical Letsrun material.
come on malmo there is nothing that wrong with jumping a fence to do a workout! in the scale of things that kids/young adults can do to break the law- doing a session of 5 x 500m with a jog lap recovery doesnt warrent the police!! can't believe in your whole career you never became a track badit malmo?????????????????????????????
my bandit storys is, every christmas eve i have jumped the fence of my old college track - as i have to wear my spikes for the first time for some 10 x 100m. The first time i did it i made the mistake of going in the light! and yes the campus security guard came over after i had warm-up and said he was calling the police!!. i said could he just let me get the session done and i would be gone in 15mins- as it was christmas eve- he said no chance and opened the gate to throw me out! i was so pissed off! so i went home waited for it to go dark- dressed all in black- did my warm-up outside the college- then jumped the gate again- chucked my spikes on and ran my sprints on the dark-side of the track- jumped the gate and victory was mine! and now thats how i spend my christmas eve - dressed in black going against the system!! and with the fear of getting caught sure helps my sprints!
good luck with being a track bandit in the future!
jt
Wow, I never thought at the ripe, old age of 27 that I would actually say this:
Many of you guys have a problem with authority, which is fine; it's good to challenge things. However, regardless of whether or not you think it is a stupid rule, you cannot and should not take it upon yourself to enter into a place that is locked up. At what point do you draw the line? It's okay to hop a fence and run on a track, but does that also make it okay to pick a lock to a door and enter the school's library to do some research? No, it's not (and I would question someone's ethics if they disagree). The bottom line is that no matter how much you can rationalize this in your heads, it doesn't make it okay.
Please don't get me wrong. I think it's as dumb to lock the track up as the next guy, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's the school's call and whether or not I agree with it, I must, at the very least, abide by it.
in the running community we share...whats mine is yours and whats yours is mine p.s ill pick your wife up at 5
Almost went to jail for running on a track. I was timing myself for the mile and insisted on finishing the last 600m, despite the threats.
Officer even said a runner spent a couple days in the can for what I did, a week prior.
ttc wrote:
Almost went to jail for running on a track. I was timing myself for the mile and insisted on finishing the last 600m, despite the threats.
Officer even said a runner spent a couple days in the can for what I did, a week prior.
good for you! worth doing time rather than thinking about what could have been for that last 600m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for that guy talking about breaking into buildings by picking locks? i dont think jumping a fence to run a workout on a track is the same thing? but maybe im wrong? but i also remember reading daley thompson use to do it three times a day in the holidays and everyone said that cool!! i just think there are alot worse thing that the police should be called out to and if you can jump the fence and workout without being noticed then what harm have you done apart from get your speed work in pre indoors!!!!!
james 'track badit'thie
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I just reply I was in the booth because I needed to do something. And then he goes about how he saw me jumping over the fence. I inquired about as to why the track isn\'t open and he started getting really pissed off. I finally admitted I was in the booth stretching and I admitted I shouldn\'t have done that,
He was probably pissed off because you began the whole conversation by lying to him. I doubt he would have been as apprehensive had you not seemed so elusive to his questions.
I\'ve found if you just act like you own the place, no one ever bothers you.
Ears2Yoo wrote:
Wow, I never thought at the ripe, old age of 27 that I would actually say this:
Many of you guys have a problem with authority, which is fine; it's good to challenge things. However, regardless of whether or not you think it is a stupid rule, you cannot and should not take it upon yourself to enter into a place that is locked up. At what point do you draw the line? It's okay to hop a fence and run on a track, but does that also make it okay to pick a lock to a door and enter the school's library to do some research? No, it's not (and I would question someone's ethics if they disagree). The bottom line is that no matter how much you can rationalize this in your heads, it doesn't make it okay.
Please don't get me wrong. I think it's as dumb to lock the track up as the next guy, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's the school's call and whether or not I agree with it, I must, at the very least, abide by it.
No.
Stop.
There is no comparison between using a track and picking a lock to a building. Stop using this analogy. It has been used six times already and not once has it applied. To repeat, there is no comparison.
malmo wrote:
Kid. It's not your track. The Kampus Kops asked you to leave. You leave.
You are not the center of the universe. Your workout certainly can be done anywhere, and the roads are free. Use them.
You're right about one, and only one thing. This is typical Letsrun material.
Damn straight Malmo!
Holy Crap, why the hell do so many runners feel they are entitled to stuff?!
Some points:
1) Whoever said alumni are entitled to use the track is a huge dumbass. So, are you allowed to enter the school and use their gym for a pickup basketball game too when the doors are locked? Learn this -- schools can lock up any part of their property, including outdoor facilities anyway and any time they like.
2) If I were that school cop I wouldn't have let you say word one. I would have turned my bullhorn on you and just kept yelling "get out, get out, get out" as soon as you gave me any guff.
3) The problem with Americans (could be true in other countries, but I don't pretend to know) is that too many of us feel entitled to stuff -- entitled to drive our cars as fast as we want, entitled to break laws, both civil and moral, entitled to do whatever we want to do if we can somehow justify it. If the track has a locked fence, that means stay the f**k out, so do that next time.
remike wrote:
I was going to mention that schools also usually have unlocked tennis courts since they are usually outside the fenced off area. There goes the "liability" argument.
interesting. i don't think i've ever seen tennis courts that were NOT fenced in. usually they have fences around them simply to prevent you have to chase a ball forever if you miss a shot.
where are these fenceless tennis courts?
Wrong wrong wrong wrote:
Stop.
There is no comparison between using a track and picking a lock to a building. Stop using this analogy. It has been used six times already and not once has it applied. To repeat, there is no comparison.
You're kidding me, right?
If you are so adamant about this being an apples vs. oranges issue, could you at least explain why?
Help me understand the fundamental differences in trespassing via hopping a fence or sneaking into an actual building? Try arguing that to the police or a judge and then be prepared to crawl under a rock after they begin mocking you and your weak argument.
What do you all think about a public school closing off access to the track during non-school hours, especially on weekends?
I admit that it pisses me off to no end, partially because I pay a huge amount of property tax just like everyone else, and I'd at least like to have access to my local community college or high school's track when school is not in session. I just don't see what the point is in closing the track to the public, when its the local residents that pay for the track.
A little advice to the original poster:
First, nobody will excuse you for breaking into the track because you helped out with the team or did some volunteer time helping the school in some way. This might get you off with a warning in the event they call the cops, but their campus security isn't going to know about every random altrusitic person who has ever helped out at the school. Don't be unrealistic.
Second, as a prior poster said, the way to pull this off is to pretend that you belong there. Name drop some campus authority figure who is higher in pay grade than the cop.
Third, befriending the security is the best way to have hassle-free use of the track (but you've already blown it with this guy). Bribing them with food is a good strategy. Then if you both get caught, he gets fired and you have an excuse. Okay, that last part was a joke...
Last, (if you really want to fight them) they probably don't want you there because of liability. Turn this around on them by falling off the fence and breaking your arm. Then sue them for forcing you to climb a fence to get to the track...
In summary, don't get so personally offended that you got booted from a track. If you're going to bend/break the law, realize that it is an impersonal game. Your job was to get in your workout. His job was to throw you from the track. He won this time. If you're going to win next time, you've got to hone your skillz.
Ears2Yoo wrote:
Wrong wrong wrong wrote:Stop.
There is no comparison between using a track and picking a lock to a building. Stop using this analogy. It has been used six times already and not once has it applied. To repeat, there is no comparison.
You're kidding me, right?
If you are so adamant about this being an apples vs. oranges issue, could you at least explain why?
Help me understand the fundamental differences in trespassing via hopping a fence or sneaking into an actual building? Try arguing that to the police or a judge and then be prepared to crawl under a rock after they begin mocking you and your weak argument.
Isn't breaking into a building called "breaking and entering", whereas "trespassing" means you are illegally on the property? Perhaps a lawyer can answer this...
Well, I actually got the workout done. He offended me with his demeanor and verbally abusing me, which I think was something that shouldn't be done in the situation, very unprofessional.