There is plenty of evidence that he cheated and Hans won't be able to refute it in court. Chess.com has evidence of every click he made while using their site.
They found every time Hans clicked out of the game window, his move accuracy increased significantly. So he was literally not looking at the board and was looking at something else and he played more accurately than times where he was only looking at the board. Was he looking at pictures of puppies? Or maybe he was using a computer program to find the best move.
A better example is a guy that flips a coin and gets heads 3 million times in a row.
Hans already admitted that he cheated online. The issue isn't if he's ever cheated, it's how much he's cheated. Hans will lose and he'll have to pay everyone else's legal fees
The loser doesn’t have to pay the winner’s legal fees. Which law school did you go to?
Actually there are a lot of circumstances where person who files a losing lawsuit has to pay the legal fees for the other party.
There is plenty of evidence that he cheated and Hans won't be able to refute it in court. Chess.com has evidence of every click he made while using their site.
They found every time Hans clicked out of the game window, his move accuracy increased significantly. So he was literally not looking at the board and was looking at something else and he played more accurately than times where he was only looking at the board. Was he looking at pictures of puppies? Or maybe he was using a computer program to find the best move.
A better example is a guy that flips a coin and gets heads 3 million times in a row.
Hans already admitted that he cheated online. The issue isn't if he's ever cheated, it's how much he's cheated. Hans will lose and he'll have to pay everyone else's legal fees
The loser doesn’t have to pay the winner’s legal fees. Which law school did you go to?
A law school has no input into what the court decides to do.
I guess there will be demonstrations of anal beads, Hans will bend over and they will insert and give him signals. Then the judge (knowing how these guys are) will say "what about me, let me actually see if it works", and they will insert some into him and satisfy him.
The case then turns into a farce with everyone having anal beads and all the argument being presented by 'anal bead language".
Chess.com has an OBLIGATION to report cheating because they host FIDE tournaments and other tournaments with cash prizes.
The cheaters have no right to privacy - as long as their home addresses and other personal information isn't being revealed. Even if chess.com told someone that they would keep it private as a friendly gesture, they always have the right to go back on that especially when it's in the public interest (or in this case when Hans LIES publicly about his cheating on the website).
Hans will get nothing.
Lol! What a load. If chess.com has an obligation under FIDE rules, they would divulge the names of the other anonymous Grand masters caught and banned. Hans is competing in OTB tournaments (not Chess.com) and being accused of cheating. Are these other banned grand masters still competing in OTB tournaments? Yes. Why their right to privacy?
Lol! What a load. If chess.com has an obligation under FIDE rules, they would divulge the names of the other anonymous Grand masters caught and banned. Hans is competing in OTB tournaments (not Chess.com) and being accused of cheating. Are these other banned grand masters still competing in OTB tournaments? Yes. Why their right to privacy?
Exactly. Additionally those other Grandmasters still play on Chess.com and weren't banned.
Hence the evident bias and dichotomy.
There is one and only one reason why Carlsen and his corporate connections attacked and maligned Hans Niemann, and that's because he defeated Carlsen in an over the board tournament.
Chess.com has an OBLIGATION to report cheating because they host FIDE tournaments and other tournaments with cash prizes.
The cheaters have no right to privacy - as long as their home addresses and other personal information isn't being revealed. Even if chess.com told someone that they would keep it private as a friendly gesture, they always have the right to go back on that especially when it's in the public interest (or in this case when Hans LIES publicly about his cheating on the website).
Hans will get nothing.
Lol! What a load. If chess.com has an obligation under FIDE rules, they would divulge the names of the other anonymous Grand masters caught and banned. Hans is competing in OTB tournaments (not Chess.com) and being accused of cheating. Are these other banned grand masters still competing in OTB tournaments? Yes. Why their right to privacy?
Hans spoke publicly and incorrectly about his chess.com ban first so they in turn went public to correct his misinformation and provide their reasoning. chess.com has never accused him of cheating OTB and their report actually states that there is insufficient evidence to support this claim.
The lawsuit is just another troll from Hans. it will never make it to court and the best settlement he’ll get is the 2 juicers Hikaru has offered.
Lol! What a load. If chess.com has an obligation under FIDE rules, they would divulge the names of the other anonymous Grand masters caught and banned. Hans is competing in OTB tournaments (not Chess.com) and being accused of cheating. Are these other banned grand masters still competing in OTB tournaments? Yes. Why their right to privacy?
Exactly. Additionally those other Grandmasters still play on Chess.com and weren't banned.
Hence the evident bias and dichotomy.
There is one and only one reason why Carlsen and his corporate connections attacked and maligned Hans Niemann, and that's because he defeated Carlsen in an over the board tournament.
Even GMs lose 50% of games they play (against other GMs) so they aren't sore losers, there is just clearly something off about the way Hans beats them - and that has been proven DEFINITIVELY by subsequent review of the games by computer engines.
If you are an MLB pitcher and you give up a 400 foot home run, you shake your head and move on. But if someone hits a 800 foot home run off you, you would demand to check the bat. Hans is hitting 800 foot home runs more frequently than other proven dopers were hitting 400 foot home runs. Clear cheating.
Uhhhhh Hikaru was a youtube commentator is this thing…,
magnus didnt even lose, he just resigned from the tournament…
Chess com is just another commentator.
where is the standing? Slander defamation? I bet this is just some more bullshid creative controversy to highlight chess…
magnus wouldn’t have even lost if he played out the full game maybe he sensed Hans was Playing kind of cheat in his opening, and resigned… maybe it was planned… if they had kept playing he wouldn’t have won Magnus that’s not how Chess works…
Letsrun better hope Hans LOSES otherwise this website and all of it's posters are going to be sued into oblivion from all the athletes that have been accused of doping.
Hans winning will mean Rupp can sue LRC for 100 million.
Lol! What a load. If chess.com has an obligation under FIDE rules, they would divulge the names of the other anonymous Grand masters caught and banned. Hans is competing in OTB tournaments (not Chess.com) and being accused of cheating. Are these other banned grand masters still competing in OTB tournaments? Yes. Why their right to privacy?
Exactly. Additionally those other Grandmasters still play on Chess.com and weren't banned.
Hence the evident bias and dichotomy.
There is one and only one reason why Carlsen and his corporate connections attacked and maligned Hans Niemann, and that's because he defeated Carlsen in an over the board tournament.
Who aare these other GMs who have been caught and banned by chess.com? Anonymous? Why? Lets' say they are anonymous due to some rule or reason, how do you even know there are any?
I hope it goes to court so Hans will have to explain under oath how he's played better than every other human in history at their peak. He will have to explain how he's played dozens of games with 100% accuracy, orders of magnitude more than any other player (except for other cheaters).
By definition, any human who beats the world champion or a player who has beat the world champion has played "better than any other human". It doesn't mean what you think it means. Hans and other top players are still 600-1000 points below chess engines, meaning there is still a ton of room to grow in the game.
Hans is an admitted cheater. Even if he wins against Chess.com the damages awarded will be minimal. What’s the value of calling an admitted cheater an even bigger cheater? Very little.
implied that he cheated in person. the tournament organizers scanned his body for devices and found nothing. therefore, he is not cheating. if you want to say that he secretly slid in some cheating device but don't have the proof to show it, then you are engaging in conspiracy.
Nice deflection to a different topic, a racist one. That's letsrun for you, filled with people like you turning everything into a racial trope every chance they get.
Here is the problem. The real issue i snot that either Magnus or chess.com accused Niemann of cheating; he admitted he did. His suit is that they are conspiring to keep him from playing. That will be very hard to prove. SO, here is the actual information: Niemann says the defendants colluded to destroy his reputation and livelihood. Lawyers for both Magnus Carlsen and Chess.com dismissed the allegations. In his filing, Niemann, 19, accuses Carlsen of launching a smear campaign against him in collaboration with Carlsen's online chess company Play Magnus, and Chess.com, which has agreed to buy Play Magnus. He is seeking compensation "to recover from the devastating damages that defendants have inflicted upon his reputation, career, and life by egregiously defaming him and unlawfully colluding to blacklist him from the profession to which he has dedicated his life", the lawsuit said.
So, he is accusing them of colluding in keeping him from playing chess on chess.com and in its tournaments. That will be impossible for him to prove, unless he has actual evidence via email or other that they were doing so. This was, in my estimation, an idiotic move on his part because it will allow for discovery and will admit into evidence a lot of stuff I think he would prefer not be publicly known. This includes the evidence chess.com has on his games and his ability to exactly match stockfish 100% of the time in many games. I don't think Niemann is getting good advice. He should let his games speak for themselves. This does remind me of the tactics Armstrong used for years to keep people from looking into his cheating. And Magnus was very clear in how he worded what he said. This is losing for Niemann.
Hans didn't really have a choice here. Whether he did or didn't, he has to sue. In both cases doing nothing makes him look "guilty." This is a hail mary, and what better way than the headline grabbing 100M number?
The interesting thing is that he has admitted to cheating in some form in the past, so that really seems like he's going to fight an uphill battle from the very beginning.
Y'all are missing the best part of this. Every time he's been accused of cheating he tells the interviewer "the chess speaks for itself," "the chess speaks for itself."
And then he tweets his lawsuit and says "MY LAWSUIT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF." OH LAAAWWWWWWD. I CANT EVEN. IM DED. XXXXXXXX.
Financial Times article published just before the lawsuit was made public points out that HN performed very well at the US Chess Champs in St Louis in circumstances in which cheating was impossible.
His performance was consistent with his current rating and makes it very plausible that he could have defeated Carlsen in a given game in which Carlsen did not play his best chess.
It was Carlsen's accusation of cheating in that game that made this whole thing blow up and I have yet to see anything that convinces me that it happened.
"He didn't seem to be concentrating" is awfully weak as support for an accusation that you have to know will have a very significant harmful economic effect on the party you are accusing.
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