I appreciate this update, and wish Molly the best. It’s pathetic how hateful and disrespectful people on here are towards her. She is inspiring and transparent and a human just like any of us who deal with pressure and mental health issues.
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Mollyfan wrote:
It’s pathetic how hateful and disrespectful people on here are towards her.
How is it hateful and disrespectful when we point out the numerous lies Molly Shapiro tries to pass over our heads? We are actually her biggest fans, we remember everything she tells us. So when she tries to make put several ones over gullible marks with such a B.S. article, it is actually us that are disrespected.
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Mollyfan wrote:
She is…transparent...
She needs to clear up the whole running a trail race a week after returning to weight bearing activity…The mansplaining guy on the plane…The bro on the dating app that challenged her to a race. Basically, things about her that she brought upon herself.
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Glass room wrote:
Mollyfan wrote:
She is…transparent...
She needs to clear up the whole running a trail race a week after returning to weight bearing activity…The mansplaining guy on the plane…The bro on the dating app that challenged her to a race. Basically, things about her that she brought upon herself.
Seriously, chill.
Seidel is extremely transparent in the article about dealing with mental health issues. Significantly more so than other athletes. Becoming a public persona overnight was not easy for her.
A fun run at a trail race with an SO and random social posts are not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. She's not going around setting up diplomatic meetings with North Korea and Putin or attempting to sway public health dialogue.
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Hills & Cheap Thrills wrote:
TMI, she seems like a drama girl.
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It is 100% obvious wrote:
Once again, I will state the following:
* she lived a quiet life and mostly devoid of social media through college. Then boom, 50,000 followers (needs citation with proper number)
* Developmentally immature (i.e. bumble rants and "calling out guys on planes")
* Her personality type and alcohol also dont mesh well at all. In fact, you could shift the lens toward what happens in the 2-3 days without alcohol and likely see a pattern in her outbursts.
She was overloaded with unexpected pressure, over exposed on social media, never had a full grip on how to act maturely in the first place and isnt able to handle alcohol in her lifestyle. It's a bad combination for her. Her psychological state can be evidenced in the Runner's World article where she is documented self cycling with the social media thing again.
My answer to this all along has been, "Molly, get off of social media. You were never ready for it. And stop drinking. You were never ready for that either."
She should:
1) Hire someone to do the social media part for her, but she should be hands free. Someone at Puma, not Izzy.
2) Also make a pact with herself to stop drinking regularly. She doesnt need to be a tee totaller. She should let go for 365 days or more though to get back on track for running.
The person Molly Seidel is at her core, underneath all these complex issues, is a wonderful person. But these overlaying complex issues cannot be resolved unless she let's go of certain things that are clouding her personal and athletic progress.
Other posters can downvote all they want like my previous posts. But that doesnt make the content above invalid.
I wrote this on Rojo's thread but she just needs to stop social media all together, run if that is what makes her happy, and stay as private as possible. No one needs to be on social media, at least not with non-private accounts only for friends. That might mean less sponsorship opportunities but mental health is more important than being paid to shill.
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Cheap Tricks wrote:
Hills & Cheap Thrills wrote:
Sorry I don't care.
She did some great races. Looks like she might be done.
Some cold hearted people in the world. Sad.
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rojo wrote:
The Olympic medallist has struggled with bulimia, anxiety, depression, a fractured sacrum, OCD, ADHD and more.
From rojo's summary on his late version of this thread. It sounds more to me that Molly is claiming every disease she can for attention with that spaghetti string. That's her real problem, not this long list.
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Must have carbs wrote:
Yes protein and saturated fats are important but don't discount the important of carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are needed for a HEALTHY metabolism, bone health & brain health are part of that. “It’s particularly true in people who are, let’s say, good at things. You can have a high IQ and still be inattentive,” Yes! Low fuel, mainly low carb intake, combined with high stress (running,) & high brain usage is a dangerous combination. She's been living on a STRESS metabolism which can trick you into thinking you're healthy because cortisol & adrenaline make you feel good & can help you run fast sometimes but it doesn't end well. Carbs lower the stress.
It sounds like she's on the right track now. I hope so.
You are absolutely WRONG. Carbohydrate is the only non-essential macronutrient. The daily human requirement is ZERO, including fiber. Humans subsisted and thrived for hundreds of thousands of years without carbs as subsistence hunters during Pleistocene bottlenecks. The large human brain developed and was supported by almost complete reliance on animal products.
As for the comment about low estrogen, a diet excluding animal fats and protein to favor carbs and alcohol results in low sex hormones. This is why carb-addicted runners tend to be so androgynous, addled and chronically injured. It is also why artificial androgen PEDs are so effective for top running performance, filling in the massive dietary deficiency, at least for the short-term.
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You wish you were her.
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I’m still genuinely confused… Was she/ is she hurt during the summer or now? Or did she get busted for a drug violation and the injury was a fall back excuse , albeit, maybe a genuine excuse if areal physical or mental issue?
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Glass room wrote:
Mollyfan wrote:
She is…transparent...
She needs to clear up the whole running a trail race a week after returning to weight bearing activity…The mansplaining guy on the plane…The bro on the dating app that challenged her to a race. Basically, things about her that she brought upon herself.
The trail race could have simply been she thought she was healed and then learned after that wasn't the case, making it worse in the process.
I'm a big fan of Molly and while it seems she's a bit lost right now, I hope she finds a place of peace with running. Maybe stepping back is helping that.
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I don’t know for sure but I don’t get the impression she’s transparent at all. Seems like a lot of half-truths and things that don’t add up. Lauding her for transparency seems naive to me. I do wish her the best. Seems like being a pro runner may not be a good choice for her moving forward. Too much pressure and harmful for her physically.
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a;oijfoasdifj wrote:
It is 100% obvious wrote:
Once again, I will state the following:
* she lived a quiet life and mostly devoid of social media through college. Then boom, 50,000 followers (needs citation with proper number)
* Developmentally immature (i.e. bumble rants and "calling out guys on planes")
* Her personality type and alcohol also dont mesh well at all. In fact, you could shift the lens toward what happens in the 2-3 days without alcohol and likely see a pattern in her outbursts.
She was overloaded with unexpected pressure, over exposed on social media, never had a full grip on how to act maturely in the first place and isnt able to handle alcohol in her lifestyle. It's a bad combination for her. Her psychological state can be evidenced in the Runner's World article where she is documented self cycling with the social media thing again.
My answer to this all along has been, "Molly, get off of social media. You were never ready for it. And stop drinking. You were never ready for that either."
She should:
1) Hire someone to do the social media part for her, but she should be hands free. Someone at Puma, not Izzy.
2) Also make a pact with herself to stop drinking regularly. She doesnt need to be a tee totaller. She should let go for 365 days or more though to get back on track for running.
The person Molly Seidel is at her core, underneath all these complex issues, is a wonderful person. But these overlaying complex issues cannot be resolved unless she let's go of certain things that are clouding her personal and athletic progress.
Other posters can downvote all they want like my previous posts. But that doesnt make the content above invalid.
I wrote this on Rojo's thread but she just needs to stop social media all together, run if that is what makes her happy, and stay as private as possible. No one needs to be on social media, at least not with non-private accounts only for friends. That might mean less sponsorship opportunities but mental health is more important than being paid to shill.
Galen Rupp seems to have done just fine with literally zero social media.
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