US 3000m Record is still WEAK

I’m not saying JC could not run faster than 7:33. I’m sure he could. Executing the 3,000 faster than 7:25 is hard. There’s a reason it’s seldom done. You need great fitness, pacing and conditions. A lot of guys are running 7:25-7:28 nowadays but Fisher who is better at the 5 or the 10 running 7:28 is anything but weak.

We completely agree on something finally, I don't care if you are riding a bike, sub 7:30 is really some running, I don't care about all the other stuff said.

The 3000m is not Fisher’s best distance and it’s not an Olympic event anyway. I’m far more interested in what he can ultimately accomplish in the 5000m and 10000m. Maybe Hocker or Teare can take the 3000m AR down to a level of your liking.

To be fair this race is seldom run. I only see two 3k races this year with people under 7:39. So the dearth of fast times doesn't necessarily prove your point.

I can only imagine how WEAK it must feel to be you?

Bernard Lagat was a 3:26/12:50 dude and the best American distance runner to ever live and only ran 7:29. I think 7:28 is pretty reasonable. With the spikes, I think Grant should go 7:26-7 someday, but he's right there and still young.

It's the 9th fastest national record in the world after Kenya, Morocco, Algeria (Saidi-Saif & Morceli), Belgium (Mourhit), Uganda, Norway, Spain, and Australia. Grant might be better than Stewy McSweyn at 3000, but Kiplimo, Ingebrigstsen and Katir on the next three dudes above him on that list. Not exactly slouches.

Using the WA conversion tables, Fisher’s 3000m time is worth 1249 points. He would have to run 7:25.56 to achieve the same score as his 10,000m AR (1268), or 7:22.61 to achieve the same score as his indoor 5,000 AR (1287).

Man, the tables are bad, though.

The indoor ones are useless.

26:33 as a time and performance rules, so I don't think it's crazy to think 7:25.56 is a fair equivalent. I'm seeing 12:44.39 as the equivalent 5,000, and that's a lofty but attainable time for Grant. These numbers don't see far off to me. There have been a bunch of 7:24.9-27 indoors and outdoors in the 3000 of late. It's not close to Grant's best event. 7:28 is a good record, but if we get a 1500/5000 runner a la Teare/Hocker and they get into 3:29/12:55 shape they will be able to run 7:26 or 7:27 potentially. That requires either of those guys taking another big step forward and is no guarantee at all.

just looking at his own teammates would show 7:28 isn't fisher's peak. Ryan Hill ran 7:30 in 2016 pre super shoes after finishing 6th at trials. ahmad who isn't on fishers level ran 12:47 5k time trial closes his last 3k in 7:33.

fisher can go 7:25.

The Olympic 5000 silver medalist isn't on Fisher's level? Sure...

It was a major event when Aouita became the first man to run 7:29.
And he made several attempts.

You're either an IDIOT or have NEVER run a fast 3000m race ever (sub 7:40). Any true elite runner knows that the 3000m is one of the MOST difficult races to run. It requires speed of a 1500m and the endurance of a 5000m. The combination of anaerobic and aerobic stress is both mentally and physically taxing.

Stay in your lane ROOKIE!

This should have been German Fernandez.

Damn shame.

The US 1500m record isn't 3:29. It's 3:27.40.

All 3000m times are weak now. Komen is the god whose WR will stand forever.

There are no "super shoes." Why would a bouncy shoe make you run faster or farther? Bouncing has nothing to do with running fast.

Other untouchable records like steeple and Genzebe's 3:50 aren't falling to any kind of new shoes. Ah but that's the doping era, they say! And now is not the doping era, but the super shoes era? Naive.

Not the shoes

Nike shills out

.But dope .

they should run more then 2 3000 meter races and the record would go down sooner with super chooz

Ethiopia...and Burundi now as well I would say. We might be missing some.

Also...To be honest...who knew this Ndikumwenayo before? To my shame I did not know him at all.