anyone have top 5 men/women results?
anyone have top 5 men/women results?
What do you know about world class miling? What is your PR? Don't insult Gabe after a fantastic performance.
I know that world-class milers don't have problems 5:10/mile for an hour so 2:19 doesn't show supreme endurane when we are talking about a 3:34 runner here.
A 2:19 is a 2:19 and that's good but for the endurance standard of world-class milers it's definietly not that great.
1. Polish guy 2:18ish
2. Gabe
3. Miguel Nuci
4. Chris Zieman
maybe 2:19 would have been great had it come off mile training, but he was training for the marathon, this marathon does not brong any promise of amazing future preformances.
I ran right around 2:20 in NYC as a lark one year.
and by brong I mean bring
coghlan wrote:
I ran right around 2:20 in NYC as a lark one year.
No, it was 2:25:13 for EC (1991).
a sub 2:20 marathon most likely means a sub 5:00 anerobic threshold. the threshold of a 14:20 guy is around 5:02 and i guarantee gabe could smash 14:20.
Miles and Miles wrote:
1. Polish guy 2:18ish
2. Gabe
3. Miguel Nuci
4. Chris Zieman
5. Chad Worthen???
noholmes wrote:
I know that world-class milers don't have problems 5:10/mile for an hour so 2:19 doesn't show supreme endurane when we are talking about a 3:34 runner here.
A 2:19 is a 2:19 and that's good but for the endurance standard of world-class milers it's definietly not that great.
um, gabe isn't a world class miler. and he's run 3:35.
i'm pretty impressed considering it's a debut at that distance and the course is not particularly fast (from what i recall). he also hasn't been training for the marathon since much earlier than the summer (he was running 1500m up until june or so). and, who knows how this race went? it's not like gabe had a bunch of rabbits carrying him along; according to people on this thread he was in the lead for 14 miles of the race.
FYI, based on those fun conversion tables, using gabe's 1500m PR he should be capable of about a 2:11 or so. however, i do not put all that much stock in these conversion tables especially when converting a mile time to the marathon.
sorry, seems he was leading for 18 miles.
dammit chuck, get it right the first time
chuck d wrote:
sorry, seems he was leading for 18 miles.
5. Peter Vail
6. Dave from Victoria
both around 2:23ish
(pretty sure those are their placings - I know they were both in the $$)
Wasn't in the right place at the right time to see much of the men's race, though.
Ladies' pack was running 2:38ish pace the whole way, except for the early front runner who led by about 30-60s for most of the race. At about 18 miles the pack of 4 made a push, and dropped the first master woman. One of the ladies put in a hard surge and left the other two behind, and kept on motoring. After that, I guess she kept going and caught the frontrunner (who I didn't know was a drug cheat, or I would have maybe spit on her if she was close enough when she went by).
chuck d wrote:
FYI, based on those fun conversion tables, using gabe's 1500m PR he should be capable of about a 2:11 or so. however, i do not put all that much stock in these conversion tables especially when converting a mile time to the marathon.
Conversion tables allow one to convert times at different distances to an equivalent standard of quality; they do not predict that any one individual "should be capable" of running such equivalent times.
Ron Obvious wrote:
5. Chad Worthen???
No I was 10th in 2:30. I was shooting for 2:29:50 so I came up a little short. I had a steller 6:46 last mile (sarcasm) that cost me my goal.
Gabe was very impressive the first 15 miles. he came through the half at well under 2:15 pace. He was not holding anything back and it probaby came back to haunt him. He showed some guts though. He had a good 30 sec lead on second place. He has a great shot at running mile and 5000m times that are competitive on the national scene next season.
danwelsh wrote:
Gabe was very impressive the first 15 miles. he came through the half at well under 2:15 pace. He was not holding anything back and it probaby came back to haunt him. He showed some guts though. He had a good 30 sec lead on second place. He has a great shot at running mile and 5000m times that are competitive on the national scene next season.
Dan, did your wife run?
danwelsh wrote:
Gabe was very impressive the first 15 miles. he came through the half at well under 2:15 pace. He was not holding anything back and it probaby came back to haunt him. He showed some guts though. He had a good 30 sec lead on second place. He has a great shot at running mile and 5000m times that are competitive on the national scene next season.
This report is more promising. Being on 2:15 pace for a while is much better than the Half he ran. We know the guy has talent and with the 1500 having gotten pretty competitive a move to the 5000 might be in the cards. However the 5000 might be pretty tough as well, given the times some up-and-coming guys ran this year (Dobson/Hall@13:15, then freshmen Withrop and Rupp @ 13:35/37 and soph Solinsky @13:37, was well as Tegenkamp 13:25/7:43 3K).
Does the 10,000 make more sense?
I am with you on this one.
To be a good miler, in most cases, you had better be a good runner.
2:19 is no surprise and just a start if and when he gets serious.