Is Katelyn Tuohy's brother now the fastest 8th-grader in the nation?

Whether the 8th grade time translates to high school and beyond greatness is not the context. Your point is taken and I agree.

I stand by the point I was trying to make. That the data base is somewhat small due to some larger states not racing that distance, so we really have no way of quantifying the time as very good, great, or one of the very best. So, we should just enjoy the the efforts of a kid that appears to have some great genetics on his side and do away with where he specifically ranks nationally as an 8th grader.

Believe me, young Tuohy would destroy him. He will be sub 9 by the end of 9th grade.

Would and will have much different meanings. Destroy normally means about 30 seconds in a 3200. If Tuohy can break 9 now why is he running so slow? Maybe he will destroy him someday but not now.

Suggest you re-read.

There’s about a 1% chance he runs that fast next year and there’s no guarantee he’ll ever be as fast as any of the NP brothers. Maybe he will, but having a fast older sister doesn’t give him an advantage over other talented young runners.

People need to stop leaning so hard on youth running as predicting future success. Skandera doesn’t even run anymore. Jaimez Solario was setting age records in the 1500 at age 8 several years ago and hasn’t gotten any faster since. Merrick has the half marathon world record for 7 year olds and based on past data points re others pushed to run so much so early doesn’t bode well for longevity.

Celebrate current winning and success. It’s good and fun. But wait till kids are past puberty—i.e., when they start to have the bodies they’ll be using to try and accomplish those times in the future—to even remotely attempt to predict the future. Doing it before is too much pressure for young ones and it’s about as accurate as a monkey throwing darts.

—dad of a super fast pre-pubescent kid who wishes it did predict future success but knows it doesn’t

Forgot to link this:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5414af48e4b05a3412bfd767/t/62169b49894faa2916ca0dae/1645648713204/Current+Cosmos+Records+2021.pdf

Check out page 4 to see the NP kids in middle school. They were good but no one would be predicting them to be the world beaters that they are with those times.

Athletic.net has so many gaps and missing performances. There is no way in hades that you can use that as a performance list, not at all. Athletic.net is horrible as a listing service.

Probably Jaden Merrick from Iowa and Bryan Hailey from Texas are the top two 8th graders. I would have to think they both can get to or under 9:30 in a 3200m.

Merrick solo'd a 9:20 300m last summer in Jacksonville on a day when the track temperature was 104F. He was most likely good for at least a 9:05 that day.

3000m****

Jaden Merrick ran a 9:42 two mile solo time trial as shown in his instagram post linked, with no pacers or help.

Given that this is only his first season running, I'm predicting Tuohy would run sub 9:50 on his next races

he's not the fastest but he is one fast kid!

i mean u r right, having katelyn tuohy as a sister doesnt give you track wins and he needs to work hard to be a national-caliber runner like his sister... but i think one thing we can takeaway from him having a fast older sister is that he naturally has superior genetics than the other kids ... if you look at ryan tuohy's times, its fast but its not the fastest but then if we consider the fact that this is his first season running track and on his first few races he breaks the school records and goes sub 10.. he has talent for sure.

To give some perspective on how some states don't have 3200m before high school, when I was in junior high (7th - 9th) in the state of Washington, as a 9th grader the longest distance we could compete was 1600m and you could not double the 800m and 1600m in a meet, so I was an 800m runner even though that later turned out to be my worst event. I didn't even get to attempt a race at a distance that suited me until I was a sophomore in high school.

Are you all really arguing about if it's good that an 8th grader went under 10 min in the 3200? Lol you all need to join the rest of us in the real world. OF COURSE this is a great performance. Thousands of HS coaches across the US are currently trying to get their juniors and seniors to go sub-10 after years of training, myself included.

JH go went sub 9 when he was an 8th-grader so his standards are somewhat ...

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He ran unattached

the youngs and now the tuohys

if theres a "first family of letsrun" theyd both be it