Emily Sisson 67:11 American half marathon record in Indianapolis

DO you actually believe the womans WR is legit(clean)? If so that means she should be able to run a ~2:11 for the Marathon which is absurd, I am not buying that.

It’s higher than it was yesterday.

So happy for Sisson! She’s been so close twice and just has been so good over recent years she definitely deserves this. Even more impressive that she did it so close to getting Covid. Kudos to her for pushing it and going for it.

She had a very bad stretch of luck … could barely run in Olympics due to injury, after destroying the field in trials. Once back to normal volume, she gets covid

She completely destroyed the field. Congratulations! What an awesome effort! I wonder if she can threaten the 10k AR with this strength?!

I think that's overselling it. She was only 5 seconds down on her trials time in the Olympic final and it was tough conditions against a much better field. I don't think there was much more in the tank for her in Tokyo.

In any case, good result for her today. That national record should really be in the low 66 at least in this era

If my math is correct, Hall's time is 3.7% behind the record and Sisson's is about 4.7% behind. Closer than the time differences would indicate. Also, I wasn't exactly trying to say the AR for men was weaker than the AR for women, just that the AR for men was set 15 years ago in regular shoes and no one has bettered it yet, even with super shoes. I'm actually surprised (disappointed) that Rupp didn't take some real cracks at it. He would have had it in 2011 had he wanted, back in 26:44 shape.

Sisson had a great run and deserved the AR, but it was set just a year or so ago also in super shoes.

I'll leave doping out of the equations here since this should be a celebration for Sisson. (As in are the WR clean?)

Interesting. She did not run for three months after the Olympics.. hard to believe she was not impacted. Plus the trails were in 95 degrees ..

This is not remotely the same thing.
But somebody we know did the same thing in 2003 and rules where changed a couple years later:

Women's world record
The IAAF Congress at 2011 World Championships in Athletics passed a motion
changing the record eligibility criteria effective October 6th 2007, so
that women's world records must be set in all-women competitions.[13]
The result of the change was that Radcliffe's 2:17:42 performance at
the 2005 London Marathon would supplant her own existing women's mark as
the "world record"; the earlier performance was to be referred to as a
"world best".[13]
The decision was met with strong protest in Britain, and in November
2011 an IAAF council member reported that Radcliffe's original mark
would be allowed to stand, with the eventual decision that both marks
would be recognized as "world records," the faster one as a "Mixed
Gender" mark, the other as a "Women Only" mark.[14]

en.wikipedia.org

Marathon world record progression

This list is a chronological progression of record times for the marathon. World records in the marathon are now ratified by World Athletics, the international governing body for the sport of athletics. Kenyan Eliud Kipchoge...

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Weldon Johnson

by: Weldon Johnson April 7, 2003 Much ado has been made by the decision of the Flora London Marathon to use male pacemakers in this year's marathon to

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Its slow. I checked the British record and in doing so discovered that 3 Scottish women have bettered or equalled the American womens' HM record.

Population of Scotland: 5 1/2 million.

Population of US: 330 million.

Good job Emily! Glad she's over covid and back to running well!

The issue is that Americans don't really run any of the fast halfs. They run NYC or Houston, but rarely go over to Valencia, Great North (though not record eligible), the one in the northern part of Ireland, one of several in Holland, etc.

What does it take to get the full home page these days?

Awesome job by Emily!

But what a joke of a "championship" race this was. How does she win by over a mile? I know the half champs was announced pretty late but at least the men's field was somewhat decent.

Rupp literally did try to break it. He ran various flat, good weather halfs including his PR race. However, he very specifically tried on a bike trail in Oregon that he picked, with pacers/competitors of his choosing. He didn't come close.

As good of a runner as he was (yes, I intentionally used past tense - his last great performance was Chicago) he is one of the few whose fans give him credit for a lot of things he has never actually done. The half and full ARs are 'his if he evet gets around to it'. It would be a formality (his fans suggest) to break every record from road 10k through 15k, 20k, all the way up. He simply hasn't bothered.

Although he 'thoeretically' and 'conceptually' holds every US road record except the ultras (and maybe those too), he 'actually' and 'literally' has none. And let's not forget, he's been to Chicago 3 times and even Europe to get the one he covets most. He HAS tried. He HAS failed.

The men do: they have to. Their pacers can't make it to anywhere near the end unless they are also capable of a record performance, or close to that. Remember, Kipchoge's record pacers fell apart about halfway. The only time this hasn't been the case was Tergat's sub-2:05 in which he barely got past the so-called pacer (also under the record and in similar shape to the star).

Women's pacers, on the other hand, either literally go through the finish chute or bail out close enough to the end that the finish line camera shows it. I think Wejo said there was less than a minute to go. All that having been said, the record being broken (Sara) was done the same way, as was Molly's. So we are comparing on a level field. And WA rules have addressed the difference an excellent post above explains.

To avoid such a dissimilarity, ie.:

The male winner is the overall winner in events such as this, and therefore had to run alone for at least some, if not most of the distance.

The women's winner can have company, either specifically planned or random, the whole way.

All USATF has to do is have a separate start as Boston and NYC do, or even have the Championship race on a different course and/or different day. Don't they use the NY Mini, for example? They also do this for road miles: the women don't have the option of hiring a 4:10 miler to run 4:30.

You obviously don't pay much attention to the sport/details. One look at a photo from the race will show you she's racing in a prototype

When and where she going to run her next ‘Thon?

New Balance has FuelCell super shoes available to the masses.