Newbury Park comes up short of DMR national record - Run 9:55.24 as Alan Webb's 9:48.78 lives on.

They only have one good 400 runner and he was away at a soccer tournament.

I anchored my team’s 10:01 DMR in 2007. Also in CA. The funny thing is we had a 54 split but there was a 47 400 guy who lived across the street but he went to a school across town for some unknown reason. The next year he transferred to my high school. If he transferred one year sooner we beat Newbury Park. If we had the super shoes and the 400 kid we set the national record with ease.

To be fair, Colin and Aaron are both better 400 guys but they had other legs to run in that race. What happened to Aaron, by the way? 7 seconds off his pr understandable for a solo 1600 in Colin, but 1:56 for Aaron is just terrible. The guy loves to choke when it counts ig

Yep, most of us were just 2, 3 maybe 20 moves away from also having the DMR record.

I’m a fan too but with I respectfully say that I think you have lost (or not yet found) perspective. Maybe you were not an athlete and don’t realize the difficulty of what they are trying to do.
Even if you were right (and I don’t think you are) and a developing 16-17 year old was not yet consistent due to the psychological aspect of competing- you say “they love to choke”? I say- great effort, learn from it, keep working, enjoy the journey, and use the detractors as motivation!

this kids heading for a donut (slang for something we all know) .. injuries going to welcome them in college with how they are running right now, coach is taking too much advantage these kids

I keep telling people

records stand decades for reasons

Trying to get these done solo is more than challenging

I think there's a good excuse. These guys have been through A LOT this year - physically and mentally. Yet another event to get up for to bring their A-game if they wanted to bust out the record. I think motivation to run essentially hard solo time trials to go after one H.S. relay record after another is wearing on them - especially now that they came up against a fairly tough one.

What is this super spike crap? Just like mondo tracks and new training sense, these are just natural progressions. What about altitude training? Is that an unfair advantage?

The 1200 was by Lex Young (8:35.99 last week), 800 by Aaron Sahlman (8:52 last week?) and anchor by Colin Sahlman. Lex and Colin ran solid, but obviously Aaron has something going on, whether it's injury or illness. Then Leo didn't run, as he's supposedly sick or injured. If all four of those guys had been primed, one of them probably could have run a 50 or 51. And if the 800 had been the 1:50 or so that it should have been, you've got the record.

Feels like these guys have gone to the well too many times, as a friend said, and need a break at this point. I have a feeling that we may have seen the best from them in 21-22.

Still the 10th best HS performance of all time.

Considering:

Missing their 400m guy (3 or 4s)

Bad performance by Aaron (6 or 7 s)

Bad performance by Colin and Young (2 to 3s each)

That 400m and 800m leg seemed to really cost them. A 53 is very weak when attempting a record. Most decent 800m guys can run sub 50 at least. Based on there PRs I was expecting.

3:00

49

1:51

4:02

Which would have given them a 9:42 and the record.

When are you going to congratulate these kids for the multiple records they have broken?

Just because they're not from Jersey is no reason. They ran sub-par and didn't have their best group in there, and a 53 in the 400m is not what you'd expect to see, but South Lakes was coached by Razcsko and Richard Smith, who ran 3:03 for them, went on to run 1:49 800m the following year, I believe. Webb ran an incredible sub-4 solo 1600m leg in the race. That's a good record. NP can still get it but I like that it's not just that easy like the 4xmile record was.

I don’t consider relays to be all that important. When South Eugene ran their 4xmile and DMR records in 1977, none of them ran particularly close to their PRs. What matters is what the NP individual PRs will be for the 2022 season. Hopefully they haven’t been burned out by running fast so early in the season.

First of all, how do you even know I am from NJ, I am, but unless you know e, or follow my posts, you would have no idea.

So, you DO follow what I say and am almost right about, every time on these issues.

Every single race is hyped as a NHS Record attempt. They would never have been near the 4 x 8 mark, not with his level of running. They did not even run faster than Ridge did Indoors.

Look, these guys are great runners, no doubt, the constant, "They are gonna do this, or gonna do that?" I can live without. Run Penn, DMR, beat Ridge and Union Catholic, before the NR hype continues every week.

Since indoor 4 x mile effort, it has literally been every week to some kind of hype.

The Two mile conversion hype, they barely converted to under 8:40. And now this, it was never close after 800 leg.IT NEVER frigging stops on here.

Its not me blowing smoke up this teams a-s..it's guys like you , who hero worship an excellent group of 17-18 year olds. Run in the HS DMR against some real comp, instead of record chasing in the Open Sections of stuff.Its not the NP Coaches or kids fault that people on here have them breaking every record known to man. They have ONE on the track so far.

If they had their best 4 guys run they should run this. 1200 3:00. 400 50 or 51. 800 1:53. 1600. 4:01. 9:45 total time. that’s duoable with their top 4 distance runners completing the relay

Well, I've been present for your opinions going back about 20 years or more to dyestat, so I'm entitled to notice when you give little credit for anyone outside the Jersey/Philly area, except for your guy's athlete, Kessler (one of the greatest ever, no doubt), but are so begrudging about these guys who have as a group been easily the greatest high school group of distance runners from one high school ever, and it's just not close. South Lakes had two great guys in Webb--possibly the best or second best ever--and Smith, 1:49. So, that was a good record and NP underperformed. But this team swept the top three spots at xc nationals and had a fourth just back. That's unprecedented. Their times were unprecedented--and in my view fully backed up by their track results. What's to argue about a team with four separate guys who have run 1:48.8/3:58/8:33, 1:48.9/4:04?/8:01jr, 1:52/4:00/8:39, 1:52/4:04/7:57/8:35?? All those times the U.S. was terrible, we were waiting for this. You should be as pleased as I am that we have a program that is churning out guys of this quality--reminds me on a tiny scale of what Kenya does every year.

They had a historically good team and didn't get the job done. No other team in history has had a 4:03/1:48/3:58 combination.

They are tired. Not all of them to the same degree. But they've been going hard from Fall to indoors to outdoors. And having to deal with the growing hype.

They're human.

Barely converted to sub-8:40? Not including Nico, there have only been 7 seven other guys in HS history to run the 2-mile or a conversion in sub-8:40 in HS history. If Leo gets healthy he’ll easily join the club and based on 800 speed and XC prowess, Aaron has a good chance as well.

There is no way these guys can be overhyped.