Throws coaches should NEVER be head coach/director.

If Duke's women T&F team has/had six sub-47 400m athletes and six sub-10.4 100m athletes, that would be impressive!

Letsrun was mad because the throws coach was banned and UVA wouldn't fire him or comment on it. They moved him to a job in rec sports so he could couldn't to coach from a distance and use the facilities, and put him on Instagram duty until his ban was over.

Abdihamid Nur would like to have a word.

Abdihamid Nur would like to have a word.

I find the amount of beta males on this thread interesting. In no world does a throws program win a national championship.

you can pour all the money you want into throws, but their is such a limited amount of events that you can only score so many points.

Sprints: 100,200,400,4x1,4,x2,4x4, 110H, 400H

Distance: 800,1500,Steeple,5K,10K (DMR Indoors)

Jumps: LJ, HJ, TJ, PV

Throws: Shot, Discus, Hammer, Jav

i don’t see a way a program committed to winning can allocate more money in throws than any other event group. It’s just not a plausible recipe for success.

A strange comment about beta males, followed by evidence of poor reading comprehension. No one suggested pouring excessive amounts of money into throws. The discussion is about whether a coach whose background is throws can be a good head coach or director. I say they can.

Didnt Florida women win or almost win with just throws at some point like 6-10 years ago(my memory is as sharp as a balloon). I think they had 4 or more scorers in the shot.

You can have one thrower than can compare in two events at the highest level. Thats not uncommon. It is very uncommon to have a distance runner complete a successful double at NCAAs. If you have two throwers who can score in two events, thats a whole lot of points

What's just a biiit ironic here... the track and field director during W&M's "proud distance" era was none other than Dan "Juice" Stimson, a throws coach and helluva nice guy.

RIP Juice. Miss ya.

One the worst hirings in VCU's history when they wanted to start their track program in 1991 with a throws coach with a bunch of XC runners. Was out of the job within a few years.

Jud logan. Please stop.

Truth is that Jud was just a good throws coach, not a good head coach.

He also succeeded to the extent he did by gutting the distance program.

Nope. Great head coach. Won NCAA team titles scoring all over the place including the DMR. Throws weren’t even the major point getters sir.

Same with Northeastern when they hired Erickson. There are dozens of examples of throws coaches that killed programs. Maybe only a few examples of throws coaches that did good as the director of the program. And many of those examples were decades ago.

Why are distances coaches the most toxic group of men in sport? No wonder so many women developing eating disorders and men go through depression and continue this viscous cycle. I know there are poor coaches in every sport and event but you distance cats, y’all need therapy.

You’re a sad person, I feel bad for the people who have to interact with you on a daily basis.

Can think of many more distance coaches that killed a track and field team than any other event group honestly.

A good head can obviously come from any area. It is not about teaching their particular area. A winning coach needs to:

-bring in good assistants

-have the charisma to get kids to come to their school and COMPETE for 4 years

-be analytical and understand how to get the most points out of the fewest people

-have the competitive fire and awareness to see the WHOLE picture

These attributes can come from any event area. My biased mind tells me that distance coaches are the most analytical of any event area, in general. Maybe I'm wrong. Just seems to make sense from a group that spends all their time breaking down various times, splits, quality vs volume, etc. To be a distance coach is to be methodical and very aware of the way numbers fit and extrapolate.

That is not to say other areas won't have those same abilities. I would just expect it to be more prevalent with distance.