That’s because this whole thread is BS started by on of LRC’s famous Putinphiles.
Look! I can also make news: Breaking news: Putin admits defeat. Gives up all claims on Crimea. Supports Ukrainian control of Donetsk and Luhansk. Will split Russia into 12 independent countries. Will turn himself into international criminal court.
Over the weekend,Zelenskyy said he is ready to agree to neutrality. He also said that “Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are beyond doubt,” while suggesting at the same time that compromise might be possible over “the complex issue of Donbas.”
The Ukrainian leader has suggested as much before but rarely commented so extensively. That could create momentum for the talks, for which the Russian delegates arrived in Istanbul on Monday, Turkish media reported.
Still, it was not clear how a compromise on the Donbas would square with maintaining Ukraine’s territorial integrity.
^ that is utter baloney from AP. Zelensky briefly repeated what he's been saying for weeks: he'll accept neutrality, but with "security" preconditions, and rejects everything else.
what this thread is actually about is a claim from Financial Times that Russia had dropped its core demands. The same paper made similar claims before the last round of talks, and they turned out completely false.
Once again, nearly every poster on these boards is revealed completely incompetent at using the internet to find accurate information. You are children in a corporate media sandbox.
Zelensky is more motivated to negotiate, not because Ukraine is losing (because clearly its not), but because he is human. He feels empathy for people and wants the killing to stop. Putin has no regard for human life and it matters little to him if thousands die or not.
Zelensky is more motivated to negotiate, not because Ukraine is losing (because clearly its not), but because he is human. He feels empathy for people and wants the killing to stop. Putin has no regard for human life and it matters little to him if thousands die or not.
That's been Putin's MO for a long time.
During WW2 after U.S. joined the fight, Germany would bomb England and England would bomb Germany. In this current conflict, all artillery shells fall on Ukraine and all bombs fall on Ukraine. Every time Ukraine's military hits Russian military with artillery, artillery shells destroy Ukraine. When are the winning Ukrainian military going to bomb Russia? Turn off the news. You are getting partial truths. Zelenskyy is going to surrender because he knows N.A.T.O. will not provide No Fly Zone and Zelnskyy knows U.S. & N.A.T.O. will not fight for Ukraine. Zelenskyy is a clown. I said how this all would go Day One.
Zelensky is more motivated to negotiate, not because Ukraine is losing (because clearly its not), but because he is human. He feels empathy for people and wants the killing to stop. Putin has no regard for human life and it matters little to him if thousands die or not.
That's been Putin's MO for a long time.
During WW2 after U.S. joined the fight, Germany would bomb England and England would bomb Germany. In this current conflict, all artillery shells fall on Ukraine and all bombs fall on Ukraine. Every time Ukraine's military hits Russian military with artillery, artillery shells destroy Ukraine. When are the winning Ukrainian military going to bomb Russia? Turn off the news. You are getting partial truths. Zelenskyy is going to surrender because he knows N.A.T.O. will not provide No Fly Zone and Zelnskyy knows U.S. & N.A.T.O. will not fight for Ukraine. Zelenskyy is a clown. I said how this all would go Day One.
That's right you have been appeasement guy through this whole Russian aggression. From the start you have wanted Ukraine to surrender to Putin.
Sometimes the world just can't give in to evil and let them have whatever they want to steal. Remember what happened last time the world kept giving to a butcher like Putin. Appeasement didn't work with Hitler and won't work now.
That’s because this whole thread is BS started by on of LRC’s famous Putinphiles.
Look! I can also make news: Breaking news: Putin admits defeat. Gives up all claims on Crimea. Supports Ukrainian control of Donetsk and Luhansk. Will split Russia into 12 independent countries. Will turn himself into international criminal court.
It kind of does matter what the winning military demands
Yup, Putin is doing a lot of winning here alright. You love moving goal posts carmine. I can see why you love stroking Putin and his mighty Russian military,
A partition of Ukraine is probably where this will end up. Zelensky may be willing to give Russia a bit of Donbas from Donetsk to Mariupol. Mariupol has been destroyed. So, giving it to Russia is no loss for Ukraine.
There are a lot of very determined soldiers in Mariupol and its surrounds. Russia has thrown everything at it and can't conquer it, all they can do so far is flatten it and kill civilians. This prevents Russia claiming the land all along from Donbas to Crimea. And, given how well Ukraine is doing on the ground, if they cannot "join up", Ukraine will probably kick the southern forces back to Crimea.
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