How many fully funded long distance clubs are in the US?

How does it feel to raise two failures?

They sold it.

I know the OP included it, but I wouldn’t say you need to provide housing to be a fully-funded club. Your athletes need to be paid enough that they can afford housing, but that’s different than the club providing it. If I were to define “fully-funded,” I would define it as:

-a median base salary for athletes in the club equal to the median for the club’s home metro area;

-a FT coach at no cost to the athlete;

-health care which covers access to a strong local network of docs, physics, etc, with any out-of-pocket costs reimbursed by the club;

-1-2 training camps/racing home bases per year fully covered by the club (travel, lodging, vehicle, food);

-travel to all races/meets fully covered by the club;

-a shoes and apparel stipend that covers all training and racing needs for the year.

I'm leaning towards 0. If you ditch the housing and medical criteria, there are a bunch.

ZAP sold their facility but still provide housing assistance for the athletes. They built a new gym on the coach's property where they moved all the equipment. They most recently brought in a new athlete in June 2021.

Agreed. Zero is much closer to the correct answer than 8, 9, or 10.

Don't you have to be of college age?

Housing is a big financial burden. I ran for a team that provided FREE housing. That saved me $10k a year. So for the poster who said ZERO. I know that is wrong.

Yes they sold it. But they are a fully funded team. Athletes receive a housing stipend since the facility was sold. Travel and accommodations paid for. Coaching / massages / support all provided. Sponsored by ON. Unsure on health care though.

I admire you for helping your children in this way. If you would, please explain more about how this works. Do you just put money in their account every month? Are they able to provide for any of their own expenses through some endorsement deals or winnings? How long do you plan to help them?

Access to physics is as easy as rolling out of bed in the morning. No cost at all.

What about Mary Cain's misspelled Attalattalanta club?

Is housing provided in other professional sports? Or is it that professional runners arent really paid enough?

Alan

I don't think 'provide housing' is a requirement if they have a base salary/payment that is enough to provide for your housing. Rupp lives in a house that isn't paid for directly by Nike, they pay him and then he uses that money for the house. Is he not 'fully funded'?

Yes Galen Rupp is a fully funded athlete. There are many athletes that are fully funded. For example Team Boss has a group of fully funded athletes. The training group is not funded and does not have funding to pay for anything. That is provided in each athletes individual contract.

This is about fully funded TRAINING GROUPS.

Pro football and basketball teams don’t provide free housing. Do the top training groups in running provide such a thing?

Pro football and basketball teams don't need to because they are part of a private league that has leveraged a much higher income structure. Pro running is more of a freelance contractor model, incredibly disjointed and anachronistic. That's why it's all piecemeal for the talent/labor. Those in any authority like this because it's easier to control the talent/labor. Those who are talent/labor stay on their knees because they don't have the spine to act to find an improved situation for the good of all. Thus they kowtow to one shoe corporation or another and act like they're big shots as a result of not being one of those on the outside of that status. It's both hilarious and sad, and something I used to esteem before I knew better.

I believe that many of these clubs provide housing stipends. This does come with a cost for the athlete. The agent takes 15% of all income and a housing stipend is considered income. Also all stipends are taxable which means that Uncle Sam will take his cut as well.

Hansons own houses and apartments and gives their athletes free housing rather than a stipend so that it is not taxed for the athlete.

NOP originally gave free housing (the famous altitude house) but has since changed

Pretty sure the other teams listed expect it to be included in the athletes contracts from the shoe companies either in the form of a stipend or just the size of the contract.

Some groups do have free travel but most do it in the form of a reimbursed stipend.

The freelance/contractor model is at the crux of the problem. Hard to get sprinters, distance, jumpers and throwers together for the common good. I like to compare T&F to Tennis or Golf more than to the major team sports. But tennis/golf basically has just one distinction (sex). And even golf has two different associations for each. It trickles down to the way they train. Not sure how that will change.