With that said, I agree with you. You should move out to lane 2 if there's a record on the line. And the runners who were definitely going to get lapped should have been in the B heat.
If it was just two people, you would lose some time going around, but not much. But "not much" can be the difference you need.
If there is traffic, the time loss can amplify.
In the example I noted of an A standard being barely missed, he was led out by multiple pacers.
When their group came up on the lapped runner, they called out and expected him to move over. They caught up and had to check slightly when they realized the lapped runner was too clueless/selfish to budge, so they'd have to go around.
The first pacer swung out, buzzing him. Lapped runner got the hint and then began moving out. Which made it even worse as the following two (second pacer and A standard wannabee) were already swinging out. They had to check slightly again and swing out even wider, completely into lane 2.
Yep, excellent example of what I was saying.
If everyone stays in lane 1, they can all just cruise around the outside without any fuss.
The time wasn't lost because he was 'clueless or selfish' for staying in lane 1, the time was lost because he decided to move out.
The way to solve this is exactly what I said. Nobody moves out.
It makes sense to pick one and stay with it. Either stay in lane one, or make the pro-active effort to move to lane two. Obviously, the worst of all worlds is moving out right when the leader is passing, causing a collision. Yes, I did watch both TENS a week ago and Cranny easily would have gained a few seconds if she wasn't passing all those runners out in lane two and three going around the turns. I still believe the right move is for lapped runners to, on their own, gravitate out to lane two out of respect for the leaders, especially if everyone knows they are going for a record! Perhaps that's the caveat we can all agree on. For normal races, even championship races, it may matter less. But when it is obvious to all a record is being pursued, move out. If you're good enough to be in that field in the first place, you owe it to the guys are gals lapping you.
Better to have the lapped runners stay in lane 1. Expecting lapped runners to move out as a matter of course will likely cause more problems then not having them move out.
It was appalling watching Grant and Mo have to pass lapped runners on the turn by going outside them. Yeah, yeah I get it. You're a 28 low 10k guy and have never been lapped before. But for crying out loud, have some basic common courtesy and respectfully move out to lane two so the record-seekers can have lane one. This used to be accepted etiquette. At the very least the starter should remind competitors of this just before the gun.
HahHaha. Look at the 64 Olympic 10k. No one was moving to the outer lanes as the three medalist are fighting for the gold.
92 Olympics, not only did the lapped Moracan (sp) not move over but he helped his teammate Skak(sp).
Just some examples. I agree with you, but it always comes down to the individual. Good example of this is 2019 WC 10k. The Ugandan moves over and the Burundi stays in lane one as they are getting lapped.
Better to have the lapped runners stay in lane 1. Expecting lapped runners to move out as a matter of course will likely cause more problems then not having them move out.
Better yet, stop running 10,000 meters on a track at all. Put them on a road course.
Start using precise surveying equipment to measure the courses, instead of wheels or bicycles, so the rule about measuring an addition extra margin can be discarded.
Ideally, nobody should be lapped in a track event.
Better to have the lapped runners stay in lane 1. Expecting lapped runners to move out as a matter of course will likely cause more problems then not having them move out.
Hopefully they change posted etiquette signs.
I mistakenly got the idea slower runners should yield the lane. All those times shouted “TRACK!” I was expecting them to get out of the way.
In F1, lapped cars must yield and move over. While crash risks on the tracks are vastly different, the common principle is that slow participants not impede much faster ones, thus affecting the competitive result.
Personal anecdote I know, but someone moved out to lane 2 when I was lapping them in the final 80 meters of my 5k race years ago. We both went down, and I missed what was likely going to be a PR at the time. Thankfully neither of us were seriously hurt, and we both finished just fine albeit a few seconds slow and with some spiked and bloody legs.
Moral of the story: stay in your lane when getting passed. The tiny extra distance the passer would have to cover is nothing compared to needing to slow down and adjust or, worse yet, crashing and having to get back up.
This was discussed last year when Sisson was lapping everyone in the 10k at the trials. Officials told the runners beforehand to NOT move to lane two and everyone knew this and apparently appreciated it because tried runners trying to correctly time when someone was coming up behind them could result in poorly timed moves and collisions.
When I was watching the race, I was in the “lane two!” group but after hearing this after the race I agree with the reasoning and believe people shouldn’t move to lane two.
The biggest favor you can do to someone passing you (lapping or otherwise) is to hold your line. Moving out risks interference, which could easily lead to a DQ.
Better yet, stop running 10,000 meters on a track at all. Put them on a road course.
Start using precise surveying equipment to measure the courses, instead of wheels or bicycles, so the rule about measuring an addition extra margin can be discarded.
Ideally, nobody should be lapped in a track event.
I agree that 10K on a track is lame for both athlete and spectator.
I'm old school and I believe lapped runners need to get out of the way, even if that means they end up running longer due to being in the 2nd lane. But I agree with some who say the worst thing with lapping runners is not knowing if they're going to move or not. It takes some off your concentration and a break your rhythm.
The biggest favor you can do to someone passing you (lapping or otherwise) is to hold your line. Moving out risks interference, which could easily lead to a DQ.
Make sure you remember that when I pass you.
Absolutely will have that penciled in for the 12th of never.
Makes sense in a time trial situation. Absolutely stupid in a championship race. The guy that repeatedly said that during the DIII broadcast sounded like such an idiot
Stay in lane 1 when I pass you . And when I do pass you, don't look over at me with a surprised look . Everyone in the stadium knows I am better than you .
Better to have the lapped runners stay in lane 1. Expecting lapped runners to move out as a matter of course will likely cause more problems then not having them move out.
Hopefully they change posted etiquette signs.
I mistakenly got the idea slower runners should yield the lane. All those times shouted “TRACK!” I was expecting them to get out of the way.
In F1, lapped cars must yield and move over. While crash risks on the tracks are vastly different, the common principle is that slow participants not impede much faster ones, thus affecting the competitive result.
Moving out as a matter of course makes sense. As a matter of practice it isn't.
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