Is Joe Klecker Update?

bruh cmon now, everyone's peaks are different... people make teams at 18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,,28,29,30,31,etc... look at abdi in the marathon.... i dont think he's peaked, its just his training is rather gnarly and i dont know if it is sustainable (hence the broken foot)

It is true that people peak at slightly different ages but almost nobody is faster on the track at 30 than they are at 26. Look for PED users like Mo Farah and others as they might be.

The above has received 4 upvotes and 121 downvotes. Are the downvotes because you folks don’t agree with me? If that is the case the majority of you are really stupid. Or do you downvote because we are only supposed to praise runners even at the expense of having to lie? This is fascinating to me as it is interesting to discover how either disingenuous or stupid most of you are.

In my opinion, for most, 26 is a tipping point.

As I was saying….did I hear Joe barely broke 14 today? It will be difficult for Joe to ever run close to 13 flat again. Anyway he will always be an Olympian.

He broke 14 easily. But that's not surprising since he ran the mile.

OK yeah so Joe ran 3:58. A good rust buster for Joe but one can see this guy is not at his best. I think he should move to the roads after this year. He could be pretty good on the roads at least in terms of domestic competition.

Yes, a sub 4 mile in a DMR is absolutely terrible for a 10k runner…on a windy day...in April….

Must feel great to be so pessimistic huh?

Look, it is well established that peak athletic performance occurs between ages 22-24 for most events. So you are absolutely correct there. But the guy just had a breakthrough year. For some, this is the end, for others, this may only be the beginning. Why not root for our young runners to succeed?

You just sound like a bad fan, and a boring one to interact with.

You are a walking cliché dude. You offer nothing. I am encouraging Joe, who has peaked on the track, to move to the roads. I know way more about this than you do, and I know that Joe is headed down an irrelevant road if he doesn’t start listening to smarter people than you.

Except…..you didn’t provide any such encouragement. You didn’t reference a transition to the roads.

You make a pretty big assumption that you know nearly as much about top level athletics as I do, but that is irrelevant to my point. I have no need to prove myself to you, but I’ve got more than a little experience in this arena. You were, and are, being a turd and a pessimist. That’s the point.

Let’s assume for now that Dathan Ritzenhein knows a little more about how to remain relevant as a runner than you or I. Wild, I know. Their plan is to stay on the track at 5k/10k this cycle, then consider a transition to the roads for next year and the next Olympics IF that fits Joe’s skill set, which we don’t know yet. With the mileage he runs, they’re clearly setting him up for a “2nd career” as a 10k-Marathon guy on the roads, but not everyone makes that transition so easily (see Dathan, Tadesse). It makes great sense for Joe to try to make another world’s team, see if he still has another level (since he just had a peak and plateau). You don’t know Joe. You don’t know his ability, strengths, and weaknesses. Especially in the aerobic track distances, athletes can develop in the late 20s. I did, and PRed at 27-32 over most distances. NOT the 100-1500, and we ain’t talking about the 1500 here.

Regardless, Joe knows he can make money on the track for at least 1 more year. Dathan and Joe know what’s best for Joe more than you do, or I do, so stop being a turd.

Joe has peaked on the track. He can try to be Ben True if he wants. There are a lot worse things he can do BUT Joe is just good enough to delude himself, Dathan and you, of course.

We will revisit this when he makes the Eugene squad and places higher than he did in the Olympics.

And dummies like you will say “oh but he didn’t PR om gawd he’s so much worse”

Bump

You were downvoted 138 times and yet you are the one who knows best.

That is a big W.

This dude gonna be Adam Goucher 2.0

He pr'd this year by 2.25s at 5000m, and ran close to that 13:04.42 in placing 4th in the DL.

He won the US champs in the 10000m over a 26:33 guy who finished 4th at World's. He may yet knock off that sub-13 this year if he doesn't wrap things up now. Ritz didn't tend to do that, so hopefully he won't either. I can also see a 10000m pr on the way, given that he ran 27:38 in warm weather after the leader was over 14 at the 5000m mark and they didn't really ramp it up until 1600 to go. In my opinion, he'll continue to get better because he hasn't been a pro long enough yet to have maximized with this coach.

Bump

Getting his doors blown off by doping woody