aztec the moronic wrote:
He should be embarrassed. He's the most foolish fast person in the country because he's paying 80k per year to go to college when he could be going to school for free.
What is it like to be middle class?
aztec the moronic wrote:
He should be embarrassed. He's the most foolish fast person in the country because he's paying 80k per year to go to college when he could be going to school for free.
What is it like to be middle class?
How fast was Aidan in HS? Did he turn down D1 offers to go to Williams?
4:14/9:09
Ask Aidan.
Badder than bad wrote:
A $320,000 degree from a liberal arts school as opposed to paying nearly nothing for an engineering degree from a P5 is not a good financial decision. He will be a semi-pro living off of his parents.
You do realize that some people choose a college not solely based on financial decisions. Williams has been ranked the number 1 Liberal Arts College in the country for the last 20 years, so there must be some reason people want to go there. And BTW- Williams starting salary out of college is around $70k which puts it in the top 10 in the country. Thats not a bad ROI.
And the post is about how amazing a 3:56 mile is for any college runner in any division. Let's try to stay on topic.
Badder than bad wrote:
A $320,000 degree from a liberal arts school as opposed to paying nearly nothing for an engineering degree from a P5 is not a good financial decision. He will be a semi-pro living off of his parents.
This ^^^ definitely gonna be another daddy money trust-funder who will live in Boulder and maybe cut another second or two off of his PR.
Also lol to anyone talking about him "not having resources" because he's DIII. Williams has always had ridiculous resources when compared to other DIII schools.
Not a good investment at all. Every engineering student at an average state school starts at that salary an they pay 1/3 as much for the degree. The starting salary is skewed because the kids all come from very wealthy families and they go to work for the family or friends of the family.
Nescac Dad wrote:
Badder than bad wrote:
A $320,000 degree from a liberal arts school as opposed to paying nearly nothing for an engineering degree from a P5 is not a good financial decision. He will be a semi-pro living off of his parents.
You do realize that some people choose a college not solely based on financial decisions. Williams has been ranked the number 1 Liberal Arts College in the country for the last 20 years, so there must be some reason people want to go there. And BTW- Williams starting salary out of college is around $70k which puts it in the top 10 in the country. Thats not a bad ROI.
And the post is about how amazing a 3:56 mile is for any college runner in any division. Let's try to stay on topic.
+1
Just another example that D3 is increasingly able to recruit some high quality distance runners. Yes, the lifetime value of an education at Williams is very high. Also, I for one know nothing of his family’s finances. Maybe the cost of college is unimportant to them, or maybe he’s on a need vase full ride.
Finally, does anybody know his 1500 split? He must have been well under the D3 indoor record and likely the outdoor record too.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
habs wrote:
so your argument is that a massive D3 record isn't impressive because he's slower than the greatest HS miler ever outdoors -- who went on to run D1? the talent pool of D3 runners and D1 runners is totally different -- unlike "Allen" webb, Aidan Ryan's HS mile PR was just 4:16 according to milesplit. That's an incredible improvement
So? He probably is runned it with super shoes on. Allen is not had super shoes when he was run 3:53.
Crap Ali G impressionist alert.
Looks like the results were only tabulated every 200M, so he came through the 1400 at 3:28.04 and his last lap was a 28.85. So simple math would have him at the 1500 at 3:42.46. And that would be under the 3:44.61 indoor record. The outdoor looks to be a 3:39, so not quite there.
Nescac Dad wrote:
Looks like the results were only tabulated every 200M, so he came through the 1400 at 3:28.04 and his last lap was a 28.85. So simple math would have him at the 1500 at 3:42.46. And that would be under the 3:44.61 indoor record. The outdoor looks to be a 3:39, so not quite there.
That's for 1409 and 1609, his 1500 would be just about 3:41.0
Yes, you are correct. Sorry, I was rushing in my math.
okayyy wrote:
Badder than bad wrote:
A $320,000 degree from a liberal arts school as opposed to paying nearly nothing for an engineering degree from a P5 is not a good financial decision. He will be a semi-pro living off of his parents.
This ^^^ definitely gonna be another daddy money trust-funder who will live in Boulder and maybe cut another second or two off of his PR.
Two pathetic losers right here.
Truth is Here. wrote:
okayyy wrote:
This ^^^ definitely gonna be another daddy money trust-funder who will live in Boulder and maybe cut another second or two off of his PR.
Two pathetic losers right here.
No one likes to shame random people they don't know for being well off like the cry baby losers on letsrun. How dare he have money! I'm gonna shame him because I'm jealous because I hate my pathetic life!
Truth is Here. wrote:
okayyy wrote:
This ^^^ definitely gonna be another daddy money trust-funder who will live in Boulder and maybe cut another second or two off of his PR.
Two pathetic losers right here.
Hi Aidan!
Badder than bad wrote:
Not a good investment at all. Every engineering student at an average state school starts at that salary an they pay 1/3 as much for the degree. The starting salary is skewed because the kids all come from very wealthy families and they go to work for the family or friends of the family.
And guess what else? Not a single one of the state school kids would ever get the opportunity to interview at Bain, BCG, or McKinsey. Williams is the elite of the elite liberal arts schools. By the time you're 5 years out of school, the cost delta of having gone there compared to a cheap school will be erased by the increased earnings. Granted, this is moot if you decide to do something mediocre like work at Deloitte, but something tells me a sub-4 DIII guy at Williams probably is goal-oriented in areas outside of running.
Also, the "family or friends of the family" thing is not true at all. It is laughable to assert that this has enough of an effect to actually skew the average or median (starting) salary. The career paths that people want in 2022 can pretty easily detect and dispose of mediocrity.
A 3:56 is a 3:56 and that's impressive regardless so props to his run, however Aidan Ryan should have been D1 based on his high school times already being D3 championship times. Williams has basically become the school good high school runners go to if they want to stomp on all the noobs in D3 rather than challenge themselves to racing & losing in D1. As someone who ran against them in the NESCAC, they would "flex" during races (literally wave to the crowd, turn back and smile) which always pissed people off because if you think you're so good.. go run D1.
FYI Williams has another guy sub 14 in the 5K and another 5 pretty close to that, so realistically they should be a D1 team but that's never gonna change for obvious reasons
Super impressive and just shows you don’t have to go to a powerhouse D1 program and train like it’s your day job to get great results
Low-medium income families will pay less than a quarter of tuition at Williams. Only wealthy families are paying full price
49% pay full price. That's 1/2 of the kids on campus essentially paying over $300k.