Why should we even care about what's going on in Ukraine?

You must be an Old Timer who voted for L.B.J. Your Domino Theory is outdated in regard to Russia. Fools who got U.S. pumped up to fight a huge war versus Saddam Hussein, Desert Storm/Desert Shield were mouthing Domino Theory nonsense.

Estonia. Soviets had a relationship with them for years. Russia will take good care of Estonians.

Finland. They spilled a lot of blood WW2. Was it worth it for Finns?

Poland. Previous relationship with Soviets.

Bulgaria. Previous relationship with Soviets.

Russia will take care of their former friends.

Risk/reward.

You ruined your credibility because you did not know Marines have already been sent to the region.

Because a cabal of spineless chickenhawks need a distraction from historically bad poll numbers. Even if it costs thousands of lives.

Disabled Vet wrote:

Because a cabal of spineless chickenhawks need a distraction from historically bad poll numbers. Even if it costs thousands of lives.

I hate to admit such, but it seems to be more and more true. Hopefully, I am wrong

not in our backyard wrote:

Ukraine is not a NATO member, we didn't sign any other treaties to defend them, and they don't have any valuable industry or resouces that the world relies on.

So why can't we just tell Russia and Ukraine to sort it out among themselves? It's not anyone else's problem. If they want to fight, so be it. Maybe we can even make a profit by selling weapons to both sides.

Anything that makes Putin stronger is bad for the US.

i miss the times when germany could invade all of europe and our allies and the us response was

"you guys all deal with it..we will sit back comfortable in our continent surrounded by two major oceans and let you guys destroy yourselves if you want"

who cares if ukraine or france gets invaded. we are untouchable here in the usa. let them fight.

"Previous relationship" is a strange word for forcible occupation. The US has a previous relationship with the UK, should we give them back the Eastern Seaboard of the US. And while we are recognizing previous relationships, we can give Spain the Southwest and California.

Clearly not a General.

Posing as an American fighting man is a brilliant ploy, Comrade! 10 Rubles for your family!

Libs couldn’t wait to get Trump out so they could start a new War.

everyoneisdoping1212 wrote:

i miss the times when germany could invade all of europe and our allies and the us response was

"you guys all deal with it..we will sit back comfortable in our continent surrounded by two major oceans and let you guys destroy yourselves if you want"

who cares if ukraine or france gets invaded. we are untouchable here in the usa. let them fight.

Maybe it's just that people in the US are hesitant to sacrifice our sons and daughters to foreign countries to clean up their messes.

I'm not sure where you are from but the US sending their youth to spill their blood and die in other countries is nothing new and we got dragged into fighting the Germans twice back in the good old days.

It seems like these days we deploy our kids to protect business ventures that powerful lobbyists want to protect in other areas of the world. Follow the money and you will know why we get involved. We are also tired of this. The kids that are sent to fight don't benefit in any way.

I also feel like the OP on this.

Russia is a failed state now an oligarchy dependent on natural resources, many of which have a clear timeline to obsolesce. They also have a ton of nuclear weapons.

Bad combo!

Harambe wrote:

Russia is a failed state now an oligarchy dependent on natural resources, many of which have a clear timeline to obsolesce. They also have a ton of nuclear weapons.

Bad combo!

So, you think it is the US that should be the one to poke that bull? 100% chance they will not launch a strike at us if we leave them alone. A high chance if we attack them.

not in our backyard wrote:

Ukraine is not a NATO member, we didn't sign any other treaties to defend them, and they don't have any valuable industry or resouces that the world relies on.

So why can't we just tell Russia and Ukraine to sort it out among themselves? It's not anyone else's problem. If they want to fight, so be it. Maybe we can even make a profit by selling weapons to both sides.

Hey bro-munch, you can be as ignorant and myopic about the world as your heart desires! Don’t let nothing stand in your way.

Putin Khuylo! wrote:

antivaxxers killing democracy wrote:

Let’s assume he doesn’t give a sh!t about any of that.

There is another big reason as well: geopolitics. Ukraine is of significant strategic value to the US and Europe; allowing Russia to occupy it would come back to bite the West in the future

Exactly right. Ukraine sits strategically between all the other NATO/EU countries and Russia. It wants to be democratic and free and closer to the West. That alone is something US and the West should fully support. Putin will not stop at just Ukraine. Russia is a threat to all of Europe and cares nothing about human rights. And we can't let history repeat itself.

https://www.state.gov/united-with-ukraine/#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20reaffirms%20its,Ukraine%20and%20the%20broader%20region

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Ukraine is only of strategic value to Russia as it pushes its border to the carpathian mountains. NATO weapons and troops in Romania are of little concern to Russia because it's impossible to invade from there and attack Moscow. In Ukraine is a whole different matter.

The US had a similar crisis in 1962 when Russia wanted to put weapons in Cuba - 90 miles from Florida.

It's all posturing. Nothing is actually going to happen. Troops will deploy. Troops will conduct exercises and prepare. Nothing more. Russia is just fishing for a response.

Alan

this is it wrote:

former U.S.M.C. rifleman wrote:

You must be an Old Timer who voted for L.B.J. Your Domino Theory is outdated in regard to Russia. Fools who got U.S. pumped up to fight a huge war versus Saddam Hussein, Desert Storm/Desert Shield were mouthing Domino Theory nonsense.

Estonia. Soviets had a relationship with them for years. Russia will take good care of Estonians.

Finland. They spilled a lot of blood WW2. Was it worth it for Finns?

Poland. Previous relationship with Soviets.

Bulgaria. Previous relationship with Soviets.

Russia will take care of their former friends.

Risk/reward.

You ruined your credibility because you did not know Marines have already been sent to the region.

Posing as an American fighting man is a brilliant ploy, Comrade! 10 Rubles for your family!

Yeah, if rojo or wejo had any doubts at to whether this board, like many others, is infested with ruskie trolls...that should clear it up for them.

Slava Ukraini wrote:

Let me guess you’re a Russian troll who gets a kick watching Putin flex his muscle. Why do we care? Because In this day and age power houses like Russia or any country for that matter especially European should not be free to go occupy and invade other countries without being punished. Ukraine is the largest European country after Russia but it can’t defend itself against Russias military on its own. . More bloodshed and murder of innocent civilians, displaced people, lack of basic essentials for what? The fact that you think that’s is fine is disgusting

Dumb post full of guessing and baseless accusations.

TZgthn wrote:

this is it wrote:

Posing as an American fighting man is a brilliant ploy, Comrade! 10 Rubles for your family!

Yeah, if rojo or wejo had any doubts at to whether this board, like many others, is infested with ruskie trolls...that should clear it up for them.

Heck of an accusation. Calling me a Russian sympathizer. Wow! Speaker Pelosi is for U.S. military involvement of U.S. in eastern Europe so it must be a good idea for some of you. The chance of Uncle Sam calling me back up is extremely remote. I speak truths because I have fighting age offspring. I care about many on here whom are fighting age. Again, as I assumed early, supporters of Truman/L.B.J. Domino Theory are spamming this site, 70 to 85 year olds who no longer are capable of logic.

Well, you do seem to be advocating ceding a number of countries to Putin.