Matthew Boling jumps world leading 27 feet (8.25m!) in the long jump

OozmaKappa wrote:

letsrun is the best wrote:

Guy makes the Olympic A standard in first meet of the year with a distance that would have taken bronze last summer.

Letsrun: he's not that good.

Just because someone runs a 10.05 doesnt mean you can just assume they can get down to 9.9 or better and contend for medals.

Just because someone jumps 8.25 (which btw is only worth 1192 pts) doesnt mean they can make up the difference and become elite to contend with medals.

And Juvaughn's PR would have won gold. But he didnt jump that. A lot of people didn't. Several people went into that olympic final with PBs above 8.60 and near 8.70. Again, American fans are delusional.

Let me know when he can jump 8.5m, run sub 9.9, or run sub 19.8. Then he's in the mix. Until then, stop being delusional.

No one in the world jumped 8.5 meters last year.

The Indianapolis wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

That's cool and all but he's no jack of all trades on the level of a decathlete, and hes also not a master of any.

Do we have enough data points to preclude him from being a great decathalete some day?

He cant vault or throw the javelin, and hes kind of old to learn. Being less than mediocre at these skills would hurt him more than his sprinting and jumping would help him. He could be an alright decathlete, idk how good, but theres serious obstacles to him ever becoming a great one. That's the point, remember? Otherwise what would be the point of bcoming a decathlete if hes less successful than he is now and its in an event thats less lucrative? To become a better decathelete than he is a sprinter, thats tough. Probably not worth it to make the switch.

Hence, my comment. Hes good at a lot of things, but hes yet to become great at anything.

OozmaKappa wrote:

That's cool and all but he's no jack of all trades on the level of a decathlete, and hes also not a master of any.

The heck is wrong with you? 21-year-old pops an 8.25m jump and the first thing you go to is he’ll never be elite at anything? He’s been making nice improvements and has a couple years to land on his event of focus. Everyone saying the 200 is kinda forgetting the USA has a better field in it than the rest of the world. Long jump would be perfectly good event to target.

OozmaKappa wrote:

The Indianapolis wrote:

Do we have enough data points to preclude him from being a great decathalete some day?

He cant vault or throw the javelin, and hes kind of old to learn. Being less than mediocre at these skills would hurt him more than his sprinting and jumping would help him. He could be an alright decathlete, idk how good, but theres serious obstacles to him ever becoming a great one. That's the point, remember? Otherwise what would be the point of bcoming a decathlete if hes less successful than he is now and its in an event thats less lucrative? To become a better decathelete than he is a sprinter, thats tough. Probably not worth it to make the switch.

Hence, my comment. Hes good at a lot of things, but hes yet to become great at anything.

At least you're consistent with your trolling. Trollers gonna troll.

OozmaKappa wrote:

The Indianapolis wrote:

Do we have enough data points to preclude him from being a great decathalete some day?

He cant vault or throw the javelin, and hes kind of old to learn. Being less than mediocre at these skills would hurt him more than his sprinting and jumping would help him. He could be an alright decathlete, idk how good, but theres serious obstacles to him ever becoming a great one. That's the point, remember? Otherwise what would be the point of bcoming a decathlete if hes less successful than he is now and its in an event thats less lucrative? To become a better decathelete than he is a sprinter, thats tough. Probably not worth it to make the switch.

Hence, my comment. Hes good at a lot of things, but hes yet to become great at anything.

Let's be fair, he may not be all that people would like to speculate he could be, but he's doing great. I don't think he makes any claims about taking over the dec.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

Just because someone runs a 10.05 doesnt mean you can just assume they can get down to 9.9 or better and contend for medals.

Just because someone jumps 8.25 (which btw is only worth 1192 pts) doesnt mean they can make up the difference and become elite to contend with medals.

And Juvaughn's PR would have won gold. But he didnt jump that. A lot of people didn't. Several people went into that olympic final with PBs above 8.60 and near 8.70. Again, American fans are delusional.

Let me know when he can jump 8.5m, run sub 9.9, or run sub 19.8. Then he's in the mix. Until then, stop being delusional.

No one in the world jumped 8.5 meters last year.

Cap. Tentoglou and Echevarria.

You're wrong, but what even is your point? My point is that the medal contenders are capable of a lot more. If a championship race is won in 13:10 do you just assume that a guy whose PB is 13:10 could have medaled? No, of course not. Because theres a ton of people in the field who are capable of going much faster even if they didnt do that in that season.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

That's cool and all but he's no jack of all trades on the level of a decathlete, and hes also not a master of any.

The heck is wrong with you? 21-year-old pops an 8.25m jump and the first thing you go to is he’ll never be elite at anything? He’s been making nice improvements and has a couple years to land on his event of focus. Everyone saying the 200 is kinda forgetting the USA has a better field in it than the rest of the world. Long jump would be perfectly good event to target.

Agreed. He was ranked 13th in the world last year at 200m. The problem is that he was ranked 9th American. The 200m is just insanely strong in the US, so an incredible performance looks average.

Theres people years younger than him running damn near half a second faster in the 200m.

Everyone has probably seen this clip from two years ago of Matt racing the Georgia football team. But still so good. Football fast and track fast are very different things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznAcOK7cTQ

LR tends to be a little dumb wrt field events. LJ and the "light throws" (discus and especially javelin) can be very unpredictable. There have been many upsets through fouls or wind or just one lucky jump/throw by a dark horse athlete. And some athletes do much better in the windless, bouncy indoors...

A *stable* 8.25 jumper (i.e. not one who lands there once in a blue moon but usually at 8.00) might be among the contenders although hardly a medal favorite. Nevertheless, it is a strong mark so early in indoor season

OozmaKappa wrote:

Theres people years younger than him running damn near half a second faster in the 200m.

0/10

Ya, Boling should just hang them up now …

Two younger guys on the planet ran the 200m faster than him last summer. One of them is even an American.

What’s the point? He is now a College Junior and only has one NCAA crown and doesn’t even own an NCAA record.

He never even made it to WC or the Olympics once in his career.

fansofonly wrote:

Should he transfer to Houston to work under the GOAT long jumper Carl Lewis?

How many top jumpers has Carl produced.

(Not top jumps.)

I don't know, that's why I am asking.

Like how many top players has M Jordan drafted?

The guy he needs is a real coach, like the guy who coached Carl. Perhaps.

Being good enough at the right time is all that matters. Not many people can say that.

Anthuan Maybank. 27+, 44+ Gold Medal 4 x 400 1996, Atlanta.

Not many had heard of him or remember him unless you were around and paying attention.

Early season 8.25 signifies he a top 8 contender at major comps, that is arriving. This increased speed and power will reflect in his sprinting also, shere he was knocking on the door of world class times

xrunner wrote:

Early season 8.25 signifies he a top 8 contender at major comps, that is arriving. This increased speed and power will reflect in his sprinting also, shere he was knocking on the door of world class times

Bruh he been knockin on that door for years. Hes not getting in. 😂💀

Isn’t Caryl Smith Gilbert coaching at Georgia now?

OozmaKappa wrote:

That's cool and all but he's no jack of all trades on the level of a decathlete, and hes also not a master of any.

He's also just a soph in college.

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Everyone has probably seen this clip from two years ago of Matt racing the Georgia football team. But still so good. Football fast and track fast are very different things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznAcOK7cTQ

Football speed only goes 40 yards, these guys don't train for that speed endurance needed for 100m.

Don't see that at all, do doubt he can pole vault or throw anything. Don't see a hurdler here.