superrshoes wrote:
Yes I know that it is better to train in the faster shoe in theory. But as I mentioned my real question is, is it worth the injury risk to train in a spike when I normally train in a extremely cushioned shoe that is the brooks glycerin.
Well, you have to race in spikes at some point. If you only ever train in heavy shoes with a 10mm drop like the Glycerin, your lower legs won't be adapted when the time comes for spikes.
I do long intervals (over 400) in Vaporfly's and short intervals in spikes. The Vaporflys are not the most stable shoes so I don't want to wear them when I'm going fast with short ground contact. For slower-paced work I like them for weight/cushioning reasons. Not as beat up afterward.
Ho Hum wrote:
I never did much work in spikes, usually just a few sharpening workouts. Otherwise, flats are fine. Look for something under 7 ounces, probably not a super shoe since you can't race in them anyway. Pay attention to the heel-toe drop; if you run everything in 10mm drop shoes your calves/Achilles won't be ready for spikes.
Wouldn't say so in a universal sense, I think the issue is that people buy spikes that aren't a great fit for them personally. Since most people don't wear their spikes much they don't have time to figure this out and just assume that spikes always cause pain.
I typically wear flats (currently adios) for everything, they're 10mm drop. Sometimes I wear spikes for a sharpening workout or if I'm doing intervals faster than mile pace, but not very often... maybe once or twice a season. Usually just races,... 5k/10k on the track or 8/10k XC.
The only time I've had issues with spikes irritating my Achilles was a specific pair I had... gave them away, bought a new pair and it went away. I think the issue was that this pair of spikes had a very rigid and high heel cup, which pressed upon my Achilles a bit too much. The other pairs I have owned had softer/flexible heel cups.
I have super shoes for workouts and races too. Track workouts is where I see the most advantage. I don’t have spikes at the moment but I’ll soon. The Endorphin Speed is a solid all around trainer. I also like the Endorphin Pro on the track it’s secure on the turns. The next % takes time to get used to and you always check yourself. I would get the invincible run by Nike too. The LT spike flat is also a good option for spiking up in workouts but you don’t sacrifice your legs.
Run6556 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMg_DyoQ-CA&t=320s
This was a good listen, thanks. The part about taking some load off the calf and achilles seemed very relevant, since that's where I usually notice fatigue and soreness after longer or faster sessions in spikes.