Salazar got the rawest of deals from this sport

Un entraîneur devrait avoir le droit de dire à ses coureurs la vérité sur leur corps. N'est-ce pas ? C'est certainement vrai en France.

Fithell Castro wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Completely agree

Live Cuban

Coach Cuban

Suffer Cuban.

Coach Fidel deserves what he gets.

I do not need an explanation.

Alberto was born and raised in Mexico.

OozmaKappa wrote:

Salazar case joins the long list of reasons why sexual assault allegations have credibility issues.

Salazar wasn't banned because he sexually assaulted someone. His harassing of female athletes over their weight was witnessed by others, so they aren't allegations.

more comfortable wrote:

For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.

Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.

Just because the allegations and process have not been disclosed to you doesn’t mean the process was secret in the way that matters, secret to Salazar. Do you think he was not presented with the evidence against him, or that he did not have every opportunity to rebut the allegations and state his case and be exonerated? Let’s assume he did. He had big money and a giant corporation on his side, at least at the start, who were very invested in seeing him return. Well, he lost. Your curiosity may not be satisfied, but that’s not the point is it? If Salazar has anything to say about the fairness of the process and the unjustness of the outcome, let him come forward. Who’s stopping him? I bet the allegations are a lot worse than the public knows and the damning evidence far greater and the reason Salazar has been silent is because this is the best possible outcome for him. He’s staying out of prison and he’s able to continue with having some in the public believe the charade that he is the victim in all of this.

carmine9 wrote:

Yusef Scumm. wrote:

You are the same person who starts a new thread each day about how this “legend” is banned, got a raw deal, etc.

You know who “got a raw deal?” The clean athletes that competed against people this “legend” trained. And by trained, I mean got TUEs for, etc. Never thought anything would happen due to the Nike association. Wrong….. Good bye, cheater. Cheated as an athlete and as a coach.

Go think of tomorrow’s topic, simpleton…..

You do know that not one of his athletes were ever accused of being dirty.

They were all clean -- yet the coach was dirty.

You do know that EVERY one of his athletes was constantly accused of being dirty. rupp from the age of 15 when he was started on the illegal testosterone, Centro so dirty that his nickname is "roid chacne Centro," "roid rage" rowbury, "doorbell" mo, "beet juice" hasay, etc.. They were all dirty and so was sleazy sal.

If you're going to cheat and do shady things it helps if you're well liked amongst your peers. If your a jerk to everyone you everyone you ever meet, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass. If Salazar had a smile like Bernard Lagat, I'm sure his sentence would heavily been reduced.

carmine9 wrote:

Yusef Scumm. wrote:

You are the same person who starts a new thread each day about how this “legend” is banned, got a raw deal, etc.

You know who “got a raw deal?” The clean athletes that competed against people this “legend” trained. And by trained, I mean got TUEs for, etc. Never thought anything would happen due to the Nike association. Wrong….. Good bye, cheater. Cheated as an athlete and as a coach.

Go think of tomorrow’s topic, simpleton…..

You do know that not one of his athletes were ever accused of being dirty.

They were all clean -- yet the coach was dirty.

Of what? Nobody has ever said.

they know they just couldnt bust his runners cause he had doctors doing the best job nike money could pay for to keep them from glowing.

but if you are smart and do some digging you will realize what his "grey" area he was claiming was doing

macro dosing with vit D, allows for greater effect of IGF-lr3 and HGH, so if he was micro dosing those he was using the vit D at large doses to maximize their effects

L-carnitine macro dosing....again this helps maximize IGF-lr3 and HGH as well as anabolics

why thyroid meds? well the claim for weight loss, but a smarter person would see that the meds were keeping the hormones in check with all the IGF-lr3 and HGH injections even at micro dose levels the thyroid will prob still stop working correctly.

what else was his athletes consuming? i would guess other things that would help maximize the effects of PEDs at undetectable micro dose levels.

they new he was doping but couldnt get the big bust....he got al caponed.....then since he was such a sleaze ball after cain and others had similar things to say as kara was saying they did a safesport investigation. again my guess is sexual texts and dick picks. there was a settlement and a the "victims" cant go to the media about it, and al sal wont have to admit anything.

all the people claiming he got a raw deal, if that was true wouldnt al sal and nike be very outspoken and in the media making a fuss? no and that says a lot. nike dropped him worse than lance and is keeping very quiet about it all. where is ruppy poop? where is mo? if al sal is an angel who didnt do anything then why isnt the big names and nike out here helping him out?

She ran 1:59 / 4:03 WHILE being assisted by Salazar through her NY coach. Try doing some basic research. This occured during her HS junior year.

Sorry, 4:04 on her 1500m as a HS junior.

Salazar deserves a lifetime ban, but from what I've read its not for sexual abuse. He deserves a lifetime ban for his grey area doping. Are sport is about human ability, not pharmaceuticals and it is not just entertainment with no drug testing like the NFL.

Kvothe wrote:

Salazar deserves a lifetime ban, but from what I've read its not for sexual abuse. He deserves a lifetime ban for his grey area doping. Are sport is about human ability, not pharmaceuticals and it is not just entertainment with no drug testing like the NFL.

Have you actually read what he got banned for with USADA ?

Just Smile When you Cheat wrote:

If you're going to cheat and do shady things it helps if you're well liked amongst your peers. If your a jerk to everyone you everyone you ever meet, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass. If Salazar had a smile like Bernard Lagat, I'm sure his sentence would heavily been reduced.

Safesport doesn’t care if he’s nice to his peers. They care if he’s an abusive jerk, or worse, a predator with respect to his athletes. He’s definitely #1. If Salazar wants the court of public opinion to weigh in and join him in decrying the outcome, let him speak out and tell us his side of the story. I’m sure the true story is worse than we know. Pretty much in these sorts of cases it always is…..

as im sure most LR morans on here are too dumb to look into it and just insult me

this was one of the first pages that came from "vitamin D and HGH injections"

https://hghtherapydoctor.us/hgh/vitamins-to-take-with-human-growth-hormone/

from a few paragraphs in

"Since HGH is the primary stimulator of IGF-1 in the liver, it is essential to maintain adequate levels. IGF-1 mediates many of the actions of human growth hormone. Vitamin D increases circulating IGF-1 levels to help improve HGH functions. IGF-1, in turn, stimulates renal production of the hormone 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D to increase phosphate and calcium availability in the body crucial for bone metabolism. Yes, vitamin D is also a hormone. Increasing vitamin D intake may also reduce dosing needs for HGH therapy."

IGF-lr3 is the synthetic peptide, much better than the natural IGF-1, but as you can see you micro dose IGF-lr3 and HGH and MACRO dose vit d then boom you get more bang for your buck and stay below the detectable levels....plus it prob helps to have a shady doc who can help fudge numbers

now l-carnitine

https://www.infisport.com/mwdownloads/download/link/id/54/

shows that L-carnitine and IGF-1 have a nice relationship....but yeah al sal was just doing "grey area"....he was using this stuff to maximize HGH and IGF-lr3.....if anyone has a list of the "supplements" and "grey area" stuff he was having his runners use i would bett everyone of them helps maximize PEDs.

oh and here is EPO and l-carnitine

https://www.ajkd.org/article/S0272-6386(03)00114-8/fulltext

l-carnitine helps the body maximize EPO....who would have thought

in the end, what is the most impressive to me is al sals homework. he knew that africans were full throttle EPO and the only way to bet them was to sauce as well. but he had to keep his runners from glowing. doing all his "grey area" with micro dosing i bett his runners were able to sauce year round, keep from injuries and do those insane post race workouts.....but know its over, and pork burritos are out of the bag as well.

Kvothe wrote:

Salazar deserves a lifetime ban, but from what I've read its not for sexual abuse. He deserves a lifetime ban for his grey area doping. Are sport is about human ability, not pharmaceuticals and it is not just entertainment with no drug testing like the NFL.

its not sexual abuse you moran, its SEXUAL misconduct....

Where is the evidence Salazar used HGH on his athletes?

75 still alive wrote:

Attacking someone because they're a different ethnicity or nationality is disgusting.

^^^^^

This.

Would all the Salazar haters and bashers on this board be condemning him if he was white? Obviously not.

donald j drumpf wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

You do know that not one of his athletes were ever accused of being dirty.

They were all clean -- yet the coach was dirty.

You do know that EVERY one of his athletes was constantly accused of being dirty. rupp from the age of 15 when he was started on the illegal testosterone, Centro so dirty that his nickname is "roid chacne Centro," "roid rage" rowbury, "doorbell" mo, "beet juice" hasay, etc.. They were all dirty and so was sleazy sal.

Not one faced one minute of suspension.