How fast do you have to be to no longer be considered a hobby jogger?

I would say 20 min 5k.

troll-69 wrote:

Faster than Sham 69

Faster than me: probable drug cheat

Slower than me: hobby jogger

It depends on your age......I am 73 and still running after 40 years!! I still consider myself a runner.......Not the fastest but do well in my age group.....

beast coast wrote:

the actual answer wrote:

If you aren't making a living then it's a hobby. That's virtually all of us except the pros who post anonymously.

Exactly! I've run a sub 17 5K, and running is my hobby. But I'm not a hobby jogger, I'm a hobby runner. The same is not true for someone who finishes a 5K in 30 minutes.

My slowest, personal worst 5K race is under 17 and running is my hobby. I'm a hobby jogger. I sometimes run, but I do the Kenyan jog most of the time, especially since I don't race anymore.

I'd say anything less than 70% on the Age Graded Calculator, which would put a runner below Regional scale and into the "Athlete" category.

From their website, it defines each category by percent:

"Age Grading: how it works

Age grading uses tables of "age factors" and "age standards" to put all runners,

regardless of age and sex on a level playing field. In particular, they allow

runners' performances, no matter what their age, to be corrected to what they

would have been achieving in their prime years, and permit valid comparisons to

be made between people of different ages.

>100% = World record level

> 90% = World class

> 80% = National class

> 70% = Regional class"

In case you aren't familiar with it, there is an online calculator where you can plug in your times for any distance to get the percentage rating for your age/sex. It's called "Master's Athletics, Age Graded Calculator"

A hobby jogger is someone who does planks to get faster, rather than running more miles.

Beast coast wrote:

I'd say a sub 20 5K for men and a sub 23 5K for women. If you're running a 19:xx 5K, you're a hobby runner, not a hobby jogger. And if you're running close to a 13 minute 5K, you're an elite runner, not a hobby runner.

2:12 marathon for men, 2:27 for women or equivalent times for shorter distances.

Anything slower than 4 minute mile pace is jogging. There is running fast (i.e. sprinting) and there is jogging. You are decieving yourselves if you think that anything slower is 'running'.

I run 3:42 for 1500 which is 1084 points iaaf. Im pretty much a hobby runner. Equivalent times are 2:14 in the marathon and 13:35 in the 5k. Giving a little bit of leeway, I'd say anything slower than 2:20 in the marathon and 14 minutes the 5k are hobby runner times. I guess add quite a bit to those for age-adjustments.

runner44938 wrote:

I've always liked Marty Liquori's distinction. A jogger is someone who asks "am I going to run today?" A runner asks "when am I going to run today?".

Those kind of distinctions are WAY above Marty’s cognitive and verbal capacity.

Old Farp wrote:

Anything slower than 4 minute mile pace is jogging. There is running fast (i.e. sprinting) and there is jogging. You are decieving yourselves if you think that anything slower is 'running'.

Old Farp, can you run a 5k?

elvid33 wrote:

Old Farp wrote:

Anything slower than 4 minute mile pace is jogging. There is running fast (i.e. sprinting) and there is jogging. You are decieving yourselves if you think that anything slower is 'running'.

Old Farp, can you run a 5k?

Nobody 'runs' a 5K. I jog a 5K in 20 minutes. Kiplimo jogs it in under 13 minutes. Kiplimo, Bekele, Kipchoge - all professional joggers. I'm a hobby jogger.

Only world class sprinters to milers are professional runners. The rest are either professional joggers or hobby joggers.

runner44938 wrote:

I've always liked Marty Liquori's distinction. A jogger is someone who asks "am I going to run today?" A runner asks "when am I going to run today?".

When am I going to jog today?

You have to be able to run a 5K in at least 12’40”.

Beast coast wrote:

I'd say a sub 20 5K for men and a sub 23 5K for women. If you're running a 19:xx 5K, you're a hobby runner, not a hobby jogger. And if you're running close to a 13 minute 5K, you're an elite runner, not a hobby runner.

Sorry, that's all hobby jogging. If you run 3:52 or better for the mile and are in the televised races, then you might have made it. It is still possible that you don't make much money at it. Not too many successful pros around...lots of hobby joggers though.

Running = athletic aspiration

Jogging = health benefits and/or fun

Is your question about how others might see you or more importantly how you see yourself?

There is no right answer without age being taken into consideration in

I’d say running an 800 in under 1’41”.