Fun fact: Massachusetts COVID case #s virtually identical to the same time last year

serghdlxkf wrote:

Having nearly 1000 people (900-ish, currently, MA) perpetually in the hospital with the SAME infections disease is not sustainable nor should any civilized society accept that as a normal thing.

Further, removing what interventions are in place, those numbers will go higher. Possibly much higher.

Denialists never want to consider how bad it might have been, might be, or might get. Lots and lots of people ARE acting sensibly and trying NOT to get or spread this illness. Consider that for once.

Even if the US had 4 times the number of excess deaths in the last 23 months, 99.1% of all Americans who should have lived, would have lived.

Did you know a compilation of excess deaths in the 700 days since Jan. 1, 2020 reveals that as of Dec. 1, 2021, 99.78% of all Americans who should be alive today are, in fact, alive ?

So equivalent to taking a gun to the head of ~1 out of every 400 people you would see on the streets and pulling the trigger? Sweet stat bro.

serghdlxkf wrote:

Having nearly 1000 people (900-ish, currently, MA) perpetually in the hospital with the SAME infections disease is not sustainable nor should any civilized society accept that as a normal thing.

Oh you care about "civilized society"? Who made you the arbiter of "civil society"? Viruses are a fact of life on earth.

No "civilized society" should expect people to cover their faces with masks in public.

kibitzer wrote:

*yawn*

Multiple posters on multiple threads have made clear that "cases" (which are just officially-recorded positive tests) are a nearly-meaningless stat.

What counts are hospitalizations and deaths.

. . . Stats that the OP seems to have avoided. Well, those probably didn't fit his narrative.

Exactly. Anyone still panicking about cases in a highly-vaccinated area that is not a public health worker can't be trusted. There is a strong chance they are either a dishonest anti-vaxxer, or someone on the exact opposite end of the spectrum who has lost touch with reality due to COVID.

One of the underrated surprises of this whole pandemic is how willing so many are to display (proudly!) their abject stupidity.

Boston guy wrote:

A lot is different this year: schools are open, masks aren’t mandated outside of a few cities, and 86% of the population has had at least one dose of vaccine.

How is no one pointing this out? Schools open and removal of mask mandates theoretically make cases go up. Vaccinations make cases go down. No sure what OP is getting at but if anything this post is a ringing endorsement of vaccines. May as well have said: "Vaccinated populations less likely to contract COVID via social interaction" but that's not really clickbait enough.

"It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#%20

hopping on this train wrote:

So equivalent to taking a gun to the head of ~1 out of every 400 people you would see on the streets and pulling the trigger? Sweet stat bro.

Except it’s nothing like that at all. It’s a natural phenomenon causing a small increase in the overall death rate. It’s a blip on the radar.

Congrats, you are part of the movement towards another dark age. You are in the company of other amazingly intellectual people who apparently know science better than, well scientists. People who have devoted their life to the study of diseases like. This distinguished includes mental giants such as Alex Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Jenny McCarthy, Alicia Silverstone and others who apparently have a master handle on science

DanM wrote:

I have lived in Massachusetts all my life. My wife refuses to move to New Hampshire, so here in Massachusetts I stay.

The know-it-alls and true believers (we have an abundance of them) put their head in the sand and ignore reality. They are on a never ending treadmill of "boosters" and it bothers them that they cannot compel every adult in the state to join them.

I remain happily unvaccinated.

Massachusetts State of Emergency declared: 2020-03-10 Days since: 630

First mRNA shots administered in the US: 2020-12-14 Days since: 351

Boston guy wrote:

hopping on this train wrote:

So equivalent to taking a gun to the head of ~1 out of every 400 people you would see on the streets and pulling the trigger? Sweet stat bro.

Except it’s nothing like that at all. It’s a natural phenomenon causing a small increase in the overall death rate. It’s a blip on the radar.

Just a blip... eyeroll. Good troll post tho.

Harambe wrote:

Boston guy wrote:

Except it’s nothing like that at all. It’s a natural phenomenon causing a small increase in the overall death rate. It’s a blip on the radar.

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/usAllCauseDeathsByYear.png

Just a blip... eyeroll. Good troll post tho.

I will HAPPILY accept a slightly higher risk of death in exchange for the freedom to live normally and mask-free. Easy choice for me.

Boston guy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

I forgot Delta I’m dumb

Delta is 2x as transmissible or more so interventions that worked against other strains are less effective.

There’s so many confounders this stat from the OP is kinda dumb but good troll

You don’t find it curious that despite all of these varying “confounders,” the weekly virus saturation is identical to within 1% year-over-year? That doesn’t suggest some kind of viral equilibrium that we are powerless to control?

Ever heard of New Zealand? Powerless to control?

kibitzer wrote:

*yawn*

Multiple posters on multiple threads have made clear that "cases" (which are just officially-recorded positive tests) are a nearly-meaningless stat.

What counts are hospitalizations and deaths.

. . . Stats that the OP seems to have avoided. Well, those probably didn't fit his narrative.

Deaths are less than half of what they were a year ago. Despite the loosening of mitigation efforts.

7 Day average deaths in MA, 11/28/20: 27

7 Day average deaths in MA, 11/28/21: 12

And of course, the vast majority of people hospitalized due to Covid and who die from Covid are unvaccinated, despite the fact that, in MA, a large majority of adults are vaccinated.

mathematics wrote:

[quote]Boston guy wrote:

A lot is different this year: schools are open, masks aren’t mandated outside of a few cities, and 86% of the population has had at least one dose of vaccine.

How is no one pointing this out? Schools open and removal of mask mandates theoretically make cases go up. Vaccinations make cases go down.

Or. Masks do nothing, the Covid is not really being spread by kids in school, and the "vaccines" do nothing..

Which is what studies and data show.

You can believe the science or the Big Pharma propaganda

Harambe wrote:

Boston guy wrote:

Except it’s nothing like that at all. It’s a natural phenomenon causing a small increase in the overall death rate. It’s a blip on the radar.

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/usAllCauseDeathsByYear.png

Just a blip... eyeroll. Good troll post tho.

Hey. A cartoon graph.

As credible as:

Don't forget Kyrie Irving.

What a kick in the head it would be to the vax mob mafia if the Aaron Rodgers led Green Bay Packers win the Super Bowl !

carmine9 wrote:

mathematics wrote:

[quote]Boston guy wrote:

A lot is different this year: schools are open, masks aren’t mandated outside of a few cities, and 86% of the population has had at least one dose of vaccine.

How is no one pointing this out? Schools open and removal of mask mandates theoretically make cases go up. Vaccinations make cases go down.

Or. Masks do nothing, the Covid is not really being spread by kids in school, and the "vaccines" do nothing..

Which is what studies and data show.

You can believe the science or the Big Pharma propaganda

So, masks do nothing. And the vaccines do nothing.

And yet, in MA, 76% of those hospitalized for Covid are unvaccinated, and about 62% of those dying from Covid are unvaccinated, when only 31.5% of the population is unvaccinated. Just a random coincidence, I suppose?

And can you give us the studies and data that you mention in your post, please?

The Lily Hammer wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

How is no one pointing this out? Schools open and removal of mask mandates theoretically make cases go up. Vaccinations make cases go down.

Or. Masks do nothing, the Covid is not really being spread by kids in school, and the "vaccines" do nothing..

Which is what studies and data show.

You can believe the science or the Big Pharma propaganda

So, masks do nothing. And the vaccines do nothing.

And yet, in MA, 76% of those hospitalized for Covid are unvaccinated, and about 62% of those dying from Covid are unvaccinated, when only 31.5% of the population is unvaccinated. Just a random coincidence, I suppose?

And can you give us the studies and data that you mention in your post, please?