Gwen has 193k instagram followers.
She does decent numbers on Youtube (im surprised they arent better tbh- 50k subscribers, 15-25k views on most videos, a few above 100k).
Anyways, on that social media reach alone she will still get sponsor money easily (maybe not nike money, but reaching into 6 figs, a solid income) and keep training for a few more years.
And moving to a new group/coach/place gives her content a little refresh so it doesn't get too stale.
shootpost wrote:
Gwen has 193k instagram followers.
She does decent numbers on Youtube (im surprised they arent better tbh- 50k subscribers, 15-25k views on most videos, a few above 100k).
Anyways, on that social media reach alone she will still get sponsor money easily (maybe not nike money, but reaching into 6 figs, a solid income) and keep training for a few more years.
And moving to a new group/coach/place gives her content a little refresh so it doesn't get too stale.
I will add that I am being optimistic about the move refreshing her content. The majority of her most viewed videos were about Bowerman. She could lose alot who were only interested in how one of the top groups (and famously secretive) in the US trains, but don't care about her.
Hocker Has Covid wrote:
jlkirekan wrote:
Why would she move to Boulder? Didn't she whine about how bad altitude is for her?
My guess is that she didn't like altitude because she couldn't keep up with the other girls in workouts therefore psychologically making it seem bad.
That's just my take.
in the video she says they're trying to decide where to live and listed Bend and Asheville among their options, but not Boulder. seems clear she doesn't like altitude.
She struggles at higher altitudes 7k and greater I believe such as Flagg, Park City, and Mammoth I believe. Shed probably be OK in Boulder.
SPNKY wrote:
She struggles at higher altitudes 7k and greater I believe such as Flagg, Park City, and Mammoth I believe. Shed probably be OK in Boulder.
Won't struggle in Boulder??
No where to go but up!
Top of Mags, the most popular out and back runs from Boulder (and a very "low" run on the front range) gains 3k and tops out at 8500 ft.
From Boulder a popular ride-run-ride is from Boulder, @ 5300 ft to Longs Peak trailhead @ 10,500 ft, a run up the peak @ 14,200, back to 10,500, then back to Boulder.
That's 9000 elevation gain starting at 5000
Park City is a place to visit for altitude training for lowlanders not used to high altitude.
Flagstaff is great. Similar to Boulder in the 80s.
Mammoth is the real deal, burly, high and has actual mountains
I've only recently started watching her videos as some of these threads have popped up. Are all her videos just she and her husband talking in chairs? It's really boring, and he comes off as strangely cocky and annoying.
In any event, she's not a good marathoner, and literally nothing about her prior experience, current fitness, age or body type would suggest that she'll ever be a good marathoner. It's very weird that she thinks there's a future there. But maybe she can become more of an influencer to that age group of women if she's a sub-elite marathoner...
save yourself wrote:
Jerry had a chance to say “Shelby went rogue” and save the reputation of himself and the group but he chose to go the Salazar/Nike route and deny deny deny. This will now be part of his and the entire BTC legacy.
Nah, Schumacher's a principled man who did the right thing. You, on the other hand, are just another anonymous little a-hole.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
Russians are dirty.
Kenyans dirty.
But an American is doped to the gills and her coach is honorable. Wow
Taro wrote:
save yourself wrote:
Jerry had a chance to say “Shelby went rogue” and save the reputation of himself and the group but he chose to go the Salazar/Nike route and deny deny deny. This will now be part of his and the entire BTC legacy.
Nah, Schumacher's a principled man who did the right thing. You, on the other hand, are just another anonymous little a-hole.
feeling pretty tough behind that keyboard, aren't we?
CinqueMinute wrote:
Here decision-making has been a clusterf^cj since 2016. She needs an agent or some counsel. It's like she's avoiding what's hard and that's never good. Not a fan.
I know right? She was given a Gold in the triathlon by lottery, changes careers and kills herself trying to be a great track runner while raising a kid...she always looks for the easy way out!
Slacker comment.
bigmig19 wrote:
CinqueMinute wrote:
Here decision-making has been a clusterf^cj since 2016. She needs an agent or some counsel. It's like she's avoiding what's hard and that's never good. Not a fan.
I know right? She was given a Gold in the triathlon by lottery, changes careers and kills herself trying to be a great track runner while raising a kid...she always looks for the easy way out!
Slacker comment.
Truly a ridiculous comment from CinqueMinute.
People can’t decide what they’re criticizing Gwen for. She pivots to a new event and lands with the premier training group in the country and LetsRun trolls decide she’s too “cocky” for setting ambitious goals and sticking with them for years. People event want her to “apologize”? For what?
If Gwen wanted to live the hobby jogger influencer lifestyle that so many on this site think she lives, the LAST thing you’d do is sign up to train under Jerry Schumacher.
Did it work out between Gwen and BTC? No. Could she have recognized that earlier? Maybe. Is her career over? Probably not.
Nothing Gwen’s done has been “easy,” including this latest pivot. She could hang up her shoes and no one would blame her one bit, but it sounds like she wants to give running on more try under a different coach and training system. Good for her!
She wasn't a product shill/influencer wannabe when she joined Jerry. She was all in in trying to become a world class runner and his group was by far the best option for her at the time. She didn't pivot to product shill/influencer wannabe until after the Jerry thing wasn't working.
Sure, she could hang up her shoes, like you said,but what is she going to do? She picked up a diva complex in triathlon and required traveling with an entourage and 10 suitcases full of rice cookers and other crap because she refuses to eat non-rice cooker food at races. Do you really think she would be a good worker at a company with a hierarchy and some kind of rules to follow? She likes to do her own thing and shill on her own terms so joining a coach who will be in another state gives her maximum flexibility in doing her own thing.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
She should go to Tinman.
With this, and a suggestion on another thread that the Athlete Special go to Tinman also, there could be triple video blog coverage of that group for y'all to watch.
Even more coverage if Allie O joined too. It could be interesting to see her and Jorgensen training together.
Patrick could cook for the whole group.
Any chances ASICS picks her back up? You would think she would get an okay sponsorship from a mid-tier shoe company. Anyways, good luck to her. She looked so tired all the time shortly after joining Bowerman. I watched her do a 5k at UW right before she joined Bowerman and she looked much fresher and relaxed. No idea what her goals are anymore. Maybe a top 10 at a major marathon? Win some low key road races?
shootpost wrote:
Gwen has 193k instagram followers.
She does decent numbers on Youtube (im surprised they arent better tbh- 50k subscribers, 15-25k views on most videos, a few above 100k).
Anyways, on that social media reach alone she will still get sponsor money easily (maybe not nike money, but reaching into 6 figs, a solid income) and keep training for a few more years.
And moving to a new group/coach/place gives her content a little refresh so it doesn't get too stale.
The only thing left in her tank is to be a Social Influencer and hocking crap...and even that will have a very short period of viability. Time to get a real job.
Lol yes Patrick will create a spin off Youtube channel about rice cooker dishes for endurance athletes
She is attention needy
She was fired from BTC
She is not an elite runner, sorry
Uh go away wrote:
She is attention needy
She was fired from BTC
She is not an elite runner, sorry
For some reason, you almost never see Nick Symmonds described this way on the boards. The guy was booted from Nike, pivoted to product marketing partnerships and social media savvy to stay in the game. Yet, he’s considered a great “entrepreneur” while any woman who follows the same path is said to be “attention needy.”
Interesting double standard.
Once she signed with 2XU she signed away the opportunity to get a shoe deal. Shoe companies want head to toe. I'm sure her 2XU deal is bigger than any shoe deal she'd be able to get though.
Jzs wrote:
I just left the DMV …
Didn’t happen unless you post a video.