malmo wrote:
It would be better to push those races back to 8-9 pm.
Remember, in Eugene its the dry heat. I've run at 3pm in 100+ weather and it's not so bad. Racing, is a different matter.
I still think AM is the way to go. It's 57 in Eugene right now (8:20 AM pacific time). Temp will peak today at 84 at 5 pm. By 8pm it will still be 79.
We could still be at 90 by 8 pm on Sunday.
Athlete Safety First wrote:
That degree of heat is not healthy to be doing strenuous exercise.
It will impact certain events more than others.
Have to think USATF will move the men’s 5k from 4:25 PM to the morning when temperatures are SAFE to run. Same holds true for the women’s 10k which runs after the 5k and 200m
This is the Olympic Trials. Running a 5k or 10k in 100+F will not lead to having the best athletes gaining spots on the team, rather it will lead to who has the best adaptation to extreme heat and/or serious heat exhaustion/stroke.
Any athlete that is hospitalized due to heat stroke should sue USATF and the USOC because both groups have time to make a decision and do the right thing for athlete safety. Organizations talk a good game about integrity, safety, athletes first etc. let’s see if they walk the talk.
Might as well just have these two event participants run 400 m.
USATF, if you are reading, please think about the athletes and not NBC television’s time slots.
Completely agree.
aoya what what wrote:
malmo wrote:
It would be better to push those races back to 8-9 pm.
Remember, in Eugene its the dry heat. I've run at 3pm in 100+ weather and it's not so bad. Racing, is a different matter.
I still think AM is the way to go. It's 57 in Eugene right now (8:20 AM pacific time). Temp will peak today at 84 at 5 pm. By 8pm it will still be 79.
We could still be at 90 by 8 pm on Sunday.
Well 90F, meh.
1992 Olympic Trials
New Orleans, LA
June 19-28
Weather history data for June 23 from wunderground
High temp 89°
Low temp 70°
Dew point 68.38
Max wind speed 10mph
Sea-level pressure 29.94
I do not remember the day but the M10,000 was contested at 9pm. Everyone that finished the heats made the final.
100 in full sun and 90 with no sun are VASTLY different running experiences even though both temps are very warm for running.
Seriously mate? wrote:
100 in full sun and 90 with no sun are VASTLY different running experiences even though both temps are very warm for running.
Track surface will be 130+F.
Ever experienced heat blisters from running on a hot track? I have and it’s not fun to recover from - we use our feet in most everything we do.
That alone will set these competitors back days of critical training leading up to the Olympics.
USATF, please reschedule events on Sunday to safer condition times in the day.
Athlete Safety First wrote:
Seriously mate? wrote:
100 in full sun and 90 with no sun are VASTLY different running experiences even though both temps are very warm for running.
Track surface will be 130+F.
Ever experienced heat blisters from running on a hot track? I have and it’s not fun to recover from - we use our feet in most everything we do.
That alone will set these competitors back days of critical training leading up to the Olympics.
USATF, please reschedule events on Sunday to safer condition times in the day.
I was wondering if anyone was going to bring this up. Been there. Also wondering how much effect the roof has on surface temps, glare etc... I know it helps make 4k people sound like a great crowd (imagine what 12k would sound like) and that it will possibly keep spectators dry in the slring but im not sure it helps on hot days.
Regarding New Orleans, THAT was a survival event for a lot of athletes but it was a great meet. Indianapolis has seen its share of humidity/thunderstorms, Sacramento was an inferno that took down even Mo Greene and Michael Johnson. So theres history with being uncomfortable in the summertime. Go figure. Now that we have supershoes we need to build airconditioned stadiums, right? Oh, Doha.
Maybe up to 114 degrees! - according to Ventusky.
aoya what what wrote:
malmo wrote:
It would be better to push those races back to 8-9 pm.
Remember, in Eugene its the dry heat. I've run at 3pm in 100+ weather and it's not so bad. Racing, is a different matter.
I still think AM is the way to go. It's 57 in Eugene right now (8:20 AM pacific time). Temp will peak today at 84 at 5 pm. By 8pm it will still be 79.
We could still be at 90 by 8 pm on Sunday.
thats great for ratings lmbo. set your clocks to watch the mens 1500 final at 0500!
everyone experiences the same heat and if anything the actual fittest athletes will make it thru in tougher conditions. with basically zero humidity it still shouldnt be that bad (except for the 5k).
Seriously mate? wrote:
100 in full sun and 90 with no sun are VASTLY different running experiences even though both temps are very warm for running.
You get it. That's why you run in the evening as the Sun is setting. Ambient track level temps will be OK.
Uncle Phil should have paid for a Doha style air conditioning system in the stadium.
We have a small air conditioner thing in our home office. Just like the inside and outside of the track with a few thousand of them.
Revised to 106F now for Sunday.
Another Option wrote:
Tokyo is expected to be very hot during the Olympics. It's probably best if those on the team can perform well in these conditions.
+1 sad but true.
malmo wrote:
Seriously mate? wrote:
100 in full sun and 90 with no sun are VASTLY different running experiences even though both temps are very warm for running.
You get it. That's why you run in the evening as the Sun is setting. Ambient track level temps will be OK.
Or..... you run in the morning when it will be much, much cooler. Like the other guy said. Why is running at night better than the morning?
Another Option wrote:
Tokyo is expected to be very hot during the Olympics. It's probably best if those on the team can perform well in these conditions.
This is idiotic. Once you get towards 40C, you're not picking the best team for heat. In fact the temperatures on the track will be nearly 43C. You're picking survivors and those that didn't go into heat stroke (this time). Move the distance races to the morning or evening before.
Yes, 106 high, feels like 108. MOVE THE START TIMES.
Sun doesnt set til 9.
9am 76 feels like 77
9m 90 feels like 92.
i should know better wrote:
malmo wrote:
You get it. That's why you run in the evening as the Sun is setting. Ambient track level temps will be OK.
Or..... you run in the morning when it will be much, much cooler. Like the other guy said. Why is running at night better than the morning?
No direct sunlight beating down on you and heating up the track. The difference is like night and day!
I said it earlier but I think NBC would love to just have a morning race and show the highlights during the evening broadcast. NBC basically avoids showing the full race of the 5k, 10k, and the steeple, anyways. They should take advantage of this opportunity to make their broadcast more watchable for their target audience, which appears to be people that know nothing about track and field.
