This is ridiculous! Eating a trace amount of a naturally occurring substance is NOT doping!

Hardloper wrote:

don't be naive wrote:

Do you really believe she received, what essentially amounts to the death penalty, for inadvertently consuming trace amounts of nandrolone in a burrito?

Why is the penalty so harsh for a simple mistake?

They want scalps and don't care about due process

Trolling? Or an idiot? Which is it?

Why would they neglect due process with someone as high profile as Shelby and Nike? That would be a legal disaster for them.

I’m a big fan of hers, but come on man.

Steroid levels returned to normal by 10 hours. Shelby said she ate the burrito over the weekend. For her claim, she would have had to ‘ve eaten the meat like 4 hours prior. She had to have gotten the call like immediately eating the burrito. This is such BS, and seeing the BTC come to her defense is sickening. I dare anyone to post something contrarian on those gushing posts.

I posted this in another thread but it got buried...

Here's the scenario: It's the height of the pandemic. You live in one of the most liberal places in the US, and you're an elite athlete in a training group that has taken extra special precautions against Covid... and she orders a burrito that happens to be made of something so specific as male uncastrated pig guts?

Given that, then sure she isn't making cash transactions, so there must be a credit card receipt, right?

Not to mention it has also been reported she was at 5ng/ml, which is 2.5 times the limit (if I understood the other thread), and I suspect this is the reason her appeal was denied. There is no possible way contaminated meat makes you 2.5 times the limit. Maybe a tad over, but not 250% over.

Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?

Hardloper wrote:

I'm not even a big Shelby fan but come on! She's obviously not micro-dosing on nandrolone in the offseason.

Sounds like one of the most believable peds she would take.

Hardloper wrote:

I'm not even a big Shelby fan but come on! She's obviously not micro-dosing on nandrolone in the offseason.

I agree and think she's innocent.

Hardloper wrote:

Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?

I'm very curious about this as well.

Hardloper wrote:

Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?

She provided both a receipt and iPhone location data showing that she ate from the food truck the night before the test.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Pro sports is entertainment, not a courtroom. You don't ask the fans for "due process." If they boo, they're right, and it's no use complaining.

Because I understand this I'm not gonna join in the freakout, but for brief entertainment I'll say you should be renamed "Harddoper"

let's run is a kangaroo court, mixed with comedy.

microdosing is a real thing.

contaminated meat is a real thing.

mass spectrometers that can detect parts per trillion are a real thing.

and morons in power that don't understand the above are a real thing.

however, with a correct protocol, you can get down to the bottom of it.

good luck to the innocent and too bad for the guilty.

athletes that lie, are a real thing

PEDs make you a liar 100%

This thread should be deleted because it was not a trace amount.

longjack wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Pro sports is entertainment, not a courtroom. You don't ask the fans for "due process." If they boo, they're right, and it's no use complaining.

Because I understand this I'm not gonna join in the freakout, but for brief entertainment I'll say you should be renamed "Harddoper"

let's run is a kangaroo court, mixed with comedy.

microdosing is a real thing.

contaminated meat is a real thing.

mass spectrometers that can detect parts per trillion are a real thing.

and morons in power that don't understand the above are a real thing.

however, with a correct protocol, you can get down to the bottom of it.

good luck to the innocent and too bad for the guilty.

LOLZ

longjack wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Pro sports is entertainment, not a courtroom. You don't ask the fans for "due process." If they boo, they're right, and it's no use complaining.

Because I understand this I'm not gonna join in the freakout, but for brief entertainment I'll say you should be renamed "Harddoper"

let's run is a kangaroo court, mixed with comedy.

microdosing is a real thing.

contaminated meat is a real thing.

mass spectrometers that can detect parts per trillion are a real thing.

and morons in power that don't understand the above are a real thing.

however, with a correct protocol, you can get down to the bottom of it.

good luck to the innocent and too bad for the guilty.

1) Hey poster, innocent people do not read a prepared statement.

2) Innocent people either say nothing or innocent people are willing to take random questions in a press conference.

by the way, no matter what my opinion, i would help the athlete in question to prove their innocence, or rather nail the truth down.

by arranging a lab and protocol, and an independent sampler of burrito,

you can assume that the pork factory won't be cooperating very well,

so it would be can of worms.

legalize it.

Guilty of course. wrote:

longjack wrote:

let's run is a kangaroo court, mixed with comedy.

microdosing is a real thing.

contaminated meat is a real thing.

mass spectrometers that can detect parts per trillion are a real thing.

and morons in power that don't understand the above are a real thing.

however, with a correct protocol, you can get down to the bottom of it.

good luck to the innocent and too bad for the guilty.

1) Hey poster, innocent people do not read a prepared statement.

2) Innocent people either say nothing or innocent people are willing to take random questions in a press conference.

you are probably guessing in the right direction. read my other posts,

hey nerds, go for it

Pubmed.

find out the highest concentration of nandrolone in meat.

and the concentration in the human in these studies.

not i,

we're wrapping up the holiday and letsrun time waste.

I’m a 55 year old recreational masters miler with a full time job, wife, mortgage, and children. I have heard of nandrolone and I know that meat contains steroids. I avoid all red meat, except hormone and antibiotic free meat from Wholefoods for health reasons. I don’t want that crap in my body.

I find it hard to believe professional athletes and coaches know less than me about this.

You are speaking from an ill informed position.

To state all Nike athletes are doping is ridiculous, unfounded and ignorant.

Nike crushes my dreams wrote:

A little research shows that in the US it is nearly impossible to commercially get "non-castrated male pork". It usually only comes from specialty game markets supplied by wild pig hunters (with a premium price).

Exactly. Any pork that you buy in the US is from a boar that is virtually guaranteed to have been castrated. If they're using this as a defense it's no wonder she lost her appeal.