Tokyo Olympics - Not looking good / "Stop the fear porn" says Rojo

Japan, China, Taiwan, and Korea need to learn how to get along. Holding decades-long grudges with your neighbors and constantly finding new ways to inflame old tensions is stupid. Cut the crap, apologize for past mistakes, and get on with it.

Another Dime for the Cursed Jar wrote:

Because there already is a 2022 Olympics. The Winter Olympics in China.

Japan does not want to be one-upped by China. China will not move their 2022 games as a middle finger to Japan.

I'm not even sure logistically you could run a summer AND winter games in a single year. Part of the 2 year divided was to allow logistics to make sense.

the 2022 games have bene in motion for years and even if it wasn't China, there is no way the holder would cancel them.

Add in the China vs. Japan antagonism AND the China against the world theme currently.... 2022 is happening no matter what.

Japan doesn't want to loose their stage....to China. 2020/1 will happen in some form.

Ummm, ever heard of 1972?

It's so weird and nonsensical that the US has a Do Not Travel advisory on Japan. It's safer to be in Japan than in the US based on case and death counts! All this Covid stuff is just completely illogical and insane.

Japan's aiming for 1 million vaccinations a day, which would put it in good shape in two months with another 60 million partly vaccinated. But that would still put it at maybe 35% fully vaccinated, so they should aim for 2 million a day.

Why do you guys keep saying postpone til 2022? The JOC already mentioned it’s either this year or bust.

agree--the winter games were really being overshadowed by the summer games by late 70's/early 80's -ie. the Sarajevo games in '84 were a modest success with no boycotts/violence (seemed like a boycott every 4 years then!), but they were completely overshadowed by the LA '84 extravaganza (1st summer games in 8 years for most of the west). That was likely the final straw for the IOC to decide to split the games as you mention in 1986! Ain't no way Japan will host the Summer games the same year as China in 2022 and unlikely that they will cancel them --. 2 months can also make a big difference with COVID case counts/vaccinations...time will tell!

Is there any conceivable reason they have now not given us an option to get our money back for the US Trials in Eugene. C'mon , really? June 30th ? It's been years now and who wants to attend the trials with no one in the stands. At this point I would rather watch it on TV with the fake audience noise piped in.

Don’t delay it or cancel. They’re having this thing. The chicken little posts need to stop.

Once again this is why it needs to be in America every time or at least every other time. This is ridiculous. The athletes will 100% take the chance even if they knew they would get covid. Lets gooo

Japan, China, Taiwan, and Korea need to learn how to get along. Holding decades-long grudges with your neighbors and constantly finding new ways to inflame old tensions is stupid. Cut the crap, apologize for past mistakes, and get on with it.

This will NEVER happen. Asia is a very old culture with grudges that go back thousands of years. It's only going to be made worst as China grows stronger and can bully everyone around for "old slights"...

It's only going to be made worst as China grows stronger and can bully everyone around for "old slights"...

sounds like USA to me

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

Japan, China, Taiwan, and Korea need to learn how to get along. Holding decades-long grudges with your neighbors and constantly finding new ways to inflame old tensions is stupid. Cut the crap, apologize for past mistakes, and get on with it.

The US wouldn't allow this to happen. If there was reconciliation between these nations on the horizon the US would try it's hardest to derail it.

toozy wrote:

How many Olympic athletes are truly ‘in danger’ from covid?

1% - at a push, maybe.

It's 5% percent and desperation when there are no vacant hospital beds and oxygen shortage.

Isn't that the point? The Japanese people absolutely do not want to go into a full-blown US, or Europe COVID-19 situation so why take the risk with such a small proportion of the population vaccinated? This is especially with people travelling in from places such as India, Brazil, or Europe.

As others have suggested, I would postpone until next year. Yes, I do sympathize for athletes who have been trying to prepare for the Games with last year already being cancelled but not for those who are doping (they should not be competing anyway). Having a winter and summer games next year will be old school and much appreciated. After this I would push for having the Olympics every 2 years, on one of those years you could have a fixed venue which already has the facilities such as Eugene or Athens (for the Summer Games) or Lausanne (for the Winter games) and the other could have a city selected by IOC votes in the current format. In between those 2 years you can have the area/world champs for the different sporting events. Hopefully this would compensate the athletes for having the Olympics cancelled these last 2 years.

If the Olympics do go ahead due to pressure from the IOC and there is a severe COVID-19 outbreak with deaths in Japan as a result, then the IOC should absolutely be held accountable and punished very severely.

Brazier takes a massive, explosive, taco bell sized, break-the-toilet dump on burgin any day of the week. Not even in the same leauge. Burgin would be insanely lucky to make tokyo finals

Postpone until 2022? No, get the Olympics in this year, before the next pandemic comes down the pike - the emaila virus.

deecastella calves wrote:

After this I would push for having the Olympics every 2 years, on one of those years you could have a fixed venue which already has the facilities such as Eugene or Athens (for the Summer Games)

Eugene host THE SUMMER OLYMPICS?!!!! Eugene could not even host the Track and Field for the Olympics let alone the entire Games. Might as well award the Winter Games to Doha while you're at it. There is a reason why only two American cities have hosted the Olympics since it became such a huge event (I don't count Saint Louis in 1904 - there were only about 600-700 athletes, about 15 nations, and no television. Now we have nearly 200 nations, 11,000+ athletes, and a media presence as great as any sporting event in the world.)

The only city with a population under 2 million that has hosted it since 2000 is Athens. Eugene is barely a neighborhood compared to these giants.

These are the American cities that have LOST Olympic bids over the last 60 years. And you think Eugene could host it? There are over 100 American cites that are better locations than Eugene, of of these only about five or so could actually host it.

Chicago - 2016

New York - 2012

Los Angeles - 1980

Los Angeles - 1976

Detroit - 1972

Detroit - 1968

Detroit - 1964

Detroit - 1960

Eugene is hosting World Championships, which is essentially "The Track and Field For the Olympics." You're a silly goof.

Precious Roy wrote:

Just realized that Worlds 2022 is in Eugene. Surprised Brojos haven't started campaigning to push Tokyo to 2022 so Nike gets screwed with Eugene 2022 cancelled.

I think moving it to 2022 is actually a good idea. That would give all the athletes a full year of COVID free training and competition to get ready for the Olympics. There have been too many shortened seasons, cancellations, etc. in the run up to Tokyo.

Winter and summer Olympics used to be the same year for decades. China and Japan can deal with it.

Are you even paying attention? Events and competitions are going on regularly scheduled this year. Athletes have had a solid year of training and it is showing in performances.

Takes like this have made CNN unwatchable/unreadable.

The Olympics will be a tightly controlled environment with extensive testing. Athletes will be safe. The article gives a far different impression.

As a side note, it's extremely surprising the Japanese have managed vaccination so terribly. Probably the most orderly, technologically advanced, collectivist society on the planet and they still haven't figured it out.