Could newbury park qualify for NCAA d1 nationals in cross country with their 2021 roster?

You are right. This Arcadia race is setup every year to get fast times. It's not racing and it's not cross country where your leg turnover is severely compromised by distance, footing, course difficulty, weather and a field of over 250 runners.

Well then they should win D1 based on that logic.

They didn’t qualify because they never raced except once...how stupid are you? You realize they didn’t qualify because of covid? I actually said that I run at a D1 school and have raced at nationals three times...Louisville, Madison and Stillwater. You don’t know how college XC works at the big level. I barely broke 8:20 in the 3k after taking top 180 at nationals my freshman year...again like I said they could beat Texas at regionals and qualify

No one really knows whether they cold qualify, they have trained to run 3 miles xc/3200m, and 8k, 10k requires different training. However, many of these kids have the talent/ability to be All Americans in their first or second year in college. Nico, who just finished 4th in NCAA CC, had a best time at 3200 of 8:40, 2 of these kids just ran 8:43 as non-seniors in hs and 4 ran sub 9. Watch out for Nico's 2 little bothers, Lex and Leo, and the 2 Sahlman brothers. I hope they all go to NAU.

No. If these guys were several years older yes.

Having run at nationals three times on teams that were obviously much better than yours. I have a pretty good idea. I challenge you to list the track PRs of 7 runners from any team at nationals this year that are even close to as bad as NP. You are clueless. There are none. Not even close you bozo. These guys wouldn't mate top 5 at an average P5 program in 8:10.

How many times did all of the other Big 10 teams run this year that qualified?

former Iowa Great wrote:

Having run at nationals three times on teams that were obviously much better than yours. I have a pretty good idea. I challenge you to list the track PRs of 7 runners from any team at nationals this year that are even close to as bad as NP. You are clueless. There are none. Not even close you bozo. These guys wouldn't mate top 5 at an average P5 program in 8:10.

Nico Young NAU 4th place. 3200m PR at Newbury Park 8:40

Hype Train wrote:

former Iowa Great wrote:

Having run at nationals three times on teams that were obviously much better than yours. I have a pretty good idea. I challenge you to list the track PRs of 7 runners from any team at nationals this year that are even close to as bad as NP. You are clueless. There are none. Not even close you bozo. These guys wouldn't mate top 5 at an average P5 program in 8:10.

Nico Young NAU 4th place. 3200m PR at Newbury Park 8:40

NP's top 4 are good enough to get a full ride at ANY CC team in the NCAA, barring injury.

What if they added Nico?

You obviously don’t know that track PR’s aren’t everything in cross. We had 5 guys in the top 100 one year, none of whom had a 5k PR of under 14 beforehand. These guys are more legit than you think. I can’t wait to see at least 3 of them be All- American their true freshman year in college in cross, and you can see how dumb you are. My point is they can beat a team like Texas at their regional meet since Texas is usually in the back half of nationals anyways, which would allow them to qualify. And all Big 10 schools didn’t race outside their conference meet due to covid rules...Michigan was allowed to since they couldn’t race at their conference meet, and lost to a Syracuse team that performed much better than their nationals performance...they performed better than southern Utah at the first Florida meet even, who went to take top 10.

They'd qualify D2 and D3 easily, and beat most D1 teams, getting out of a weaker conference.

I barely broke 10 in high school, and was running 34 for 10K on the road before and after that. I extrapolate that to mean that with maybe a small tweak, they'd have high-31 guys at worst right now, and a low 32 fifth man.

Super confused how it’s not racing at Arcadia and how it’s set up for fast times.

Colin Sahlman literally ran 8:43 leading from the very first lap. He could run that in a time trial at home if he wanted. He probably could run low to mid 8:30s in a top level race situation.

Considering rates of improvement of high school versus college I think NP could qualify D1 next year legitimately.

I think they may go 1-5 at NXN in the team race and if not definitely a team score under 30.

BREAKING NEWS: NEWBURY PARK HIGH SCHOOL XC & T&F BECOMES A D1 PROGRAM!

To find out more about the story, we turn to Newbury Park's distance coach, Sean "9-time All American" Brosnan.

"Sean, what has made you decide to take this unprecedented move?"

"Well, in this sport, times speak for themselves. We were finding that our program just didn't have enough competition on the high school level, and I wanted to make sure my athletes had opportunities to race good competition. Think of it this way, my runners are years ahead of their peers, and so, as a team we made a decision to "skip a grade" or to, in order to level the playing field"

"But like, can't you not do that? Isn't the NCAA for colleges only? Why wouldn't IMG Academy do the same thing?"

"Well, its just never happened this way before. Never before could a high school team legitimately compete on the national level in college, and I think after a couple of high places at nationals in the upcoming years, you'll agree with the decision."

"But aren't your athletes hurting their futures? Wouldn't they be apply to run on scholarship after high school if they didn't waste their eligibility so early?"

"Well, considering only the scrubs who can't even make our varsity team aren't already in a position to go pro, I'm not too worried. By LA 2028, every event from 1500 to marathon is going to be a Newbury Park alum, and I think the hardware we bring back for the USA will firmly cement this as a good decision."

"That's certainly a lot of confidence in your athletes!"

"It's the Sean Brosnan way, baby"

That's for sure. These NP guys don't come close with their 3200 PRs and they would fall apart over 10k XC. Glad you pointed out the difference. As far as Texas goes, these are their team PRs from 2021.

Mile

3:57

3:59

4:01

4:01

4:02

NB Park guys would be 40 meters behind all of them.

Indoor 3k

8:01

8:06

8:09

8:13

8:17

You can keep living in your fantasy world but most us like data.

Forget D1 man... they should all go pro.

You overvalue track times. The leg turnover at 2 miles is vastly easier to handle than at 10K over rough terrain. Not to mention it's ludicrous to think four 15-16 year old kids could compete with seasoned D1 runners who have been training and racing 10K for several years. Plus two of them are 9:00...you're forgetting that a huge number of the NCAA field were 9:00 in high school too. Except they're now several years older.

NAIA... they could place :)

They would have a chance but as others have said 10k over grass and hills is a different animal. 19-22 year olds are simply stronger then 16-18 year olds.

They would cruise into the D2 meet. I ran D2 and we made nats with only one guy who was capable of sub 9.