A. Montaño slams Nike for its pregnancy ad, says they are gaslighting people into believing they leaders in women's empowerment

Sexist? Do you call everything you do not agree with racist or sexist? It was not sexist at all. She ran 3:06 in the 800m. She was VERY CLEARLY not ready to race. It was a stunt. She knew when she lined up that she was not prepared. She should have given up her spot to someone that would actually have competed.

I loved watching her career but I totally disagree with her move in the 2016 Olympic Trials. She ran the time to get in or she would not have been allowed in but I thought it was in very poor taste to run.

is nike supporting pregnant men/transgenders? the world wants to know

I stand corrected on her 3:06. It must have been a different year where she raced and was way back.

Of course Nike supports pregnant athletes - aka customers - that's what they're selling - that pregnant regulars can be athletic. On their own dime. Nike isn't paying for pregnant athletes not to compete and therein lines the problem.

I agree with Montano and Felix but while they are A list athletes, they aren't GOD athletes.

Serena is a GOD athlete, so was Tiger Wood, Lance Armstrong. I bring up the latter two for obvious reasons (they can get away with anything and still be great in Nike's books).

When you're a GOD (aka money maker god) you have much more support.

How much money has either of the 3 I listed brought in for Nike?

How much money has track and distance early-superstars brought in?

Who?

So you're triggered because Nike wants to sell shoes and stuff to pregnant women? The horrors of unbridled capitalism!

This is spot on!

A woman choosing to have children as a Nike athlete is not the same as a woman who works an office job for Nike (or any other company for that matter). As a track athlete, being as fast as possible is the only thing that matters. Once you get pregnant, you're out for a minimum of 1.5 years (pregnancy, recovery, restart of training from scratch), with no guarantee of ever getting back to peak fitness. Those who work in the office are out 3-6 months, and step right back into where they left off.

Additionally, as a track athlete, your only value to Nike is being able to help sell shoes and apparel. What else are you bringing to the table if you can't do that for 1.5 years?

I haven't researched this, but my guess is that the data would show a majority of female track athletes never make it back to where they left off.

Just like EVERY leftist BLM dipsh1t talking about "equity" and police brutality, while coveniently omitting the true epidemic of black on black violence, garbage person ghetto culture, and the fact that 14% of the population perpetrates 84% of all violent crime.

cons piracy wrote:

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

It's amazing how many rich and famous victims we have in this country. All you have to do is claim racial, or gender, or sexual orientation, or whatever systematic injustice and you are immediately a hero to the woke mob.

Thats the braindead hateful bigot reaction here. Spouting off about people you hate when nobody brought them up. Do you just wake up pissed off at gay people and "the libs"?

Her disgust is about the hypocritical practice of a company scoring brownie points w pregnant women when they have an historical precedent of not renewing the contracts of women when they get pregnant. Sociopath companies doing horrible crap to people because they can, then putting on a smiley face for the public.

+1, great stuff.

As I recall she was only racing 2:20's while she was pregnant, far from a professional level.

What a garbage take. I could only imagine advocating against a woman trying to have a family and career.

1) A woman in professional sports is the same as a woman as a doctor or teacher. They should be protected.

2) Minimum of 18 months? False. Many women (especially professionals) continue to exercise throughout their pregnancy. It’s usually a 3-6 month break (like your office women?). Hell, Faith Kipyegon won the 2017 world champs and got silver at the 2019 world champs while having a baby in 2018.

3) Nike would be smart to push those women to the front of their advertising campaign. It’s a fantastic opportunity to promote women in sports and healthy pregnancy habits.

The answer is not to cut pregnant women out of sports. Be better.

macdaddy ogg wrote:

What a garbage take. I could only imagine advocating against a woman trying to have a family and career.

1) A woman in professional sports is the same as a woman as a doctor or teacher. They should be protected.

2) Minimum of 18 months? False. Many women (especially professionals) continue to exercise throughout their pregnancy. It’s usually a 3-6 month break (like your office women?). Hell, Faith Kipyegon won the 2017 world champs and got silver at the 2019 world champs while having a baby in 2018.

3) Nike would be smart to push those women to the front of their advertising campaign. It’s a fantastic opportunity to promote women in sports and healthy pregnancy habits.

The answer is not to cut pregnant women out of sports. Be better.

Thank you for proving my point.

Faith Kipyegon went 21 months between competitions. It is COMPLETELY different of taking 3-6 months off of exercise, and being in elite level shape.

A company shouldn't be required to pay you for as long as it takes for you to be able to do your job again, which in Alysia's case, is to help them sell merchandise.

It's great that she and her husband made a very personal decision to start a family. I hope they are all healthy and happy with their lives and the choices they made. But her career was essentially over following child birth.

With the NY Times editorial way back when, Montano was given a huge platform to talk about equity in healthcare and family leave. Instead of voicing support for universal, taxpayer-funded healthcare and family leave, which would help EVERYONE, she chose to make the issue about herself and how she personally got shafted by big bad Nike. And she continues to make the story about herself and big bad Nike every chance she gets, while apparently being convinced that she's crusading for other people. I don't like Nike at all, but even them changing their policies helps a tiny fraction of working people in this country. All businesses and all employees, with the exception of healthcare CEOs, are negatively impacted by this country's insistence on relying on individual employers to fund healthcare and family leave.

What I want to know is: (1) would Montano pay her housekeeper or nanny a full maternity leave without them doing their job; and (2) why she thinks companies should divert limited resources to runners not competing at a high level when it almost certainly means fewer funds available to support breakthrough and up and coming runners.

You guys are ridiculous. If all that mattered in progressional running contracts was racing fast, how the hell does anyone on BTC keep a contract. They never race! Allyson Felix is certainly capable of selling shoes while pregnant. She can still run, she can still make appearances, gives speeches. Show women how to keep in shape while pregnant and how to train after giving birth, etc. Pro contracts are about selling shoes, not just running fast.

The Insider wrote:

It's great that she and her husband made a very personal decision to start a family. I hope they are all healthy and happy with their lives and the choices they made. But her career was essentially over following child birth.

She ran 1:59.15 after giving birth. That's a world class time. Other women have come back from childbirth to run world class times too. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The Insider wrote:

A company shouldn't be required to pay you for as long as it takes for you to be able to do your job again, which in Alysia's case, is to help them sell merchandise.

First, running on the track isn't the only way she can help them sell merchandise. Michael Jordan still has a contract with Nike and he hasn't played in years.

Second, *almost nobody* who goes on maternity leave (which is guaranteed by law) does their job while they're on leave. Yet, paid maternity leave is common in the US. And it is mandated in other countries. Nike employees got paid leave. Why shouldn't their athletes? Even if it does cause them a small hit in revenue, they can price that into their contracts like they do with all of their employees.

Third, we have laws about pregnancy discrimination.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond tbh.

donkeydoug wrote:

Nike: Catches flack for not supporting pregnant athletes.

Nike: Switches stances, promotes pregnant female athletes

Public: NOT COOL, CANCEL THEM!

And before and after this or that everyone keeps buying their shoes ...

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your move wrote:

Why doesn't Montaño build a company herself and run it the way that she thinks Nike should be? Because it's easier to be a taker, whiner, complainer. Go build something yourself, Alysia. Then you can pay all the pregnant women you want. Your move.

She did build a company herself and is running it the way she thinks it should be.

https://andmother.org/

The company is already supporting three athletes and mothers: Dawn Harper Nelson, Sara Vaughn, and Olicia Williams.

Really cool, thanks for sharing.

Aren't these women independent contractors expected to produce results? If you hired someone to redo your kitchen and scheduled them to start in 30-days and then they told you they booked a more important project and things might be back to normal in six months, wouldn't you insist on a discount or put your limited funds to use somewhere else?

Honestly, Saucony's non-renewals/non-renegotiations of Noah Droddy and Ben True immediately after or shortly before they became all-time USA top 10 performers bothers me more from a cosmic fairness standpoint.