Not Kidding: 4 GUYS BREAK 58:00!!! 57:32 half marathon world record

If you dont believe these times are reflective of the new shoe technology, you havent been following the sport.

There is much less of a chance that the issue is PEDs, because the faster times are being run in multiple tested events and won by a lot of different runners. I cant imagine they are ALL taking drugs.

Sadly the shoes are ruining the sport. And it may be too late to go backwards now.

Another doping fest.

Let’s say the half is the distance equivalent of the 200m on terms of stature/prestige.

Imagine 4 guys all of a sudden running 19.00-19.15s, IN THE SAME RACE?

And what about all the other times behind them, relative to history? You know, the existing record wasn’t “weak”.

It’s absurdity like this that makes emotionally normally-balanced adults not care. It’s now much more entertaining to watch Japanese prank videos, or Don Lafontaine trailer mashups:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWKE-IJ4R8

Ed Harris.....Edd Harris.......Edd Harrisssss....???

Coevett wrote:

Coached by Joseph Cheromei, the same guy who coached Vincent Yator - banned for four years this April for doping.

Utter insanity indeed.

Your point being?

I coach a number of runners and have no idea whether any of them is doping. How could I?

How could you?

As for the massive drop in time, were you also up in arms when Coe lowered Juantoarena's record by 1 sec? And then proceeded to lower it by another 0.7 sec?

Outliers exist, and it's not like Kamworor ran his 58:01 under ideal conditions.

I would even go as far as saying that he was in better shape in Cardiff and under today's conditions he could have run a similar time - mid 57s

Valencia caught Kiptum, so it's not like they are protecting anyone.

If these guys are doping then they will be caught.

I don't like the new shoe technology but I accept it for what it is and I've just learnt how to enjoy the sport this way.

It was a great race.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Let’s say the half is the distance equivalent of the 200m on terms of stature/prestige.

Imagine 4 guys all of a sudden running 19.00-19.15s, IN THE SAME RACE?

And what about all the other times behind them, relative to history? You know, the existing record wasn’t “weak”.

It’s absurdity like this that makes emotionally normally-balanced adults not care. It’s now much more entertaining to watch Japanese prank videos, or Don Lafontaine trailer mashups:

Ed Harris.....Edd Harris.......Edd Harrisssss....???

Don't like it? Don't watch it.

And stick to commenting on sprints. You sound less stupid then.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Let’s say the half is the distance equivalent of the 200m on terms of stature/prestige.

Imagine 4 guys all of a sudden running 19.00-19.15s, IN THE SAME RACE?

And what about all the other times behind them, relative to history? You know, the existing record wasn’t “weak”.

It’s absurdity like this that makes emotionally normally-balanced adults not care. It’s now much more entertaining to watch Japanese prank videos, or Don Lafontaine trailer mashups:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWKE-IJ4R8

Ed Harris.....Edd Harris.......Edd Harrisssss....???

Except mid-57 is weaker (or at least less optimized) than 19.00-19.15. The true equivalent would be around 56-flat which is still a long way to go.

Coevett wrote:

Coached by Joseph Cheromei, the same guy who coached Vincent Yator - banned for four years this April for doping.

Utter insanity indeed.

Yes. This Cheromei is highly suspected!

I would keep social distancing from these runners. It is a joke how doped they are. If you don't wear a mask and keep 6 feet away then you could test positive for doping yourself.

i dont like the shoes but i dont think that's the problem here: over various lockdowns the doping will have been happening much more = less testing due to inaccessibility and often now testers will be from local offices meaning easier to pay off. we're just seeing the result of less frequent testing this year and while it makes for fun watching on raceday, it's absolutely killing the sport.

A WR by 30 seconds and 4x guys under the old WR? it's too much, and all these guys cruising past Z.Tadese, H-GS and Wanjiru's times (not to say they were clean even)...... *sigh*

Coevett, why do you continue to write wrong things ?

Cheromei never was the coach of Vincent Yator. He was a track runner for long time in the group of Patrick Sang, after moved to road races, changing management to Ika Ika. Cheromei was always the coach of Gianni Demadonna group.

I suggest you to take correct infos before writing about Kenyans : the most part of news and suppositions about Kenyans that you write in LR are total stupidities.

Lol, I just pointed out literally an hour ago that AJ would have ran 1:41 in 77/78 if not for a foot injury.

And this is not an outlier - four men broke the WR.

You're a terrible coach if you would have no idea if one of your athletes was doping. If you were training somebody the same way for several years and they suddenly made vast improvements and were recovering much quicker from workouts, what would you put it down to? Better sleep?

Abraham Kiptum got busted within a week or two of smashing the WR at Valencia just 2 years ago. The guy who did it today is another Kenyan coached by somebody whose athlete earlier this year was one of the multitude banned in the last year alone, and over 100 in the last decade. Yes you're insane if you think this guy isn't doped.

and I'll point out that my criticism here isn't only for the East Africans, it can go for many US and European elite's too...

Renato Canova wrote:

Coevett, why do you continue to write wrong things ?

Cheromei never was the coach of Vincent Yator. He was a track runner for long time in the group of Patrick Sang, after moved to road races, changing management to Ika Ika. Cheromei was always the coach of Gianni Demadonna group.

I suggest you to take correct infos before writing about Kenyans : the most part of news and suppositions about Kenyans that you write in LR are total stupidities.

Maybe so, but even you as a distinguished top coach should be suspicious if you analyzes

Kandie's development since 2017 (no results 2018)??

low handicapper wrote:

Lol. I don't think some of you running dorks understand golf balls. Pros could use Pinnacle golf balls if they wanted to. I'm pretty sure none want to.

Yeah, I do, and you are right most use Titleist. It's pretty well the same thing though. Tech in both clubs and balls are the biggest factor in pro golf. Fitness levels of the pros are a big factor since Woods.

We just started with shoe tech and this is the primary reason for distance running records. Training methods are the same in running since the 70s -80s, mileage and hard work, no real change.

George213 wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Let’s say the half is the distance equivalent of the 200m on terms of stature/prestige.

Imagine 4 guys all of a sudden running 19.00-19.15s, IN THE SAME RACE?

And what about all the other times behind them, relative to history? You know, the existing record wasn’t “weak”.

It’s absurdity like this that makes emotionally normally-balanced adults not care. It’s now much more entertaining to watch Japanese prank videos, or Don Lafontaine trailer mashups:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWKE-IJ4R8

Ed Harris.....Edd Harris.......Edd Harrisssss....???

Except mid-57 is weaker (or at least less optimized) than 19.00-19.15. The true equivalent would be around 56-flat which is still a long way to go.

Yes, by one way of judging equivalence.

By another, it is the true equivalent.

Btw in your system, what is the 200m equivalent of this new HM WR?

Also, what was the 200m equivalent of the old HM WR last week?

Curious.

Everybody knocking on this criticism about a nobody smashing 58 minutes thinking they mean Kandie when it's Mutiso that was a major shocker. He's the true nobody and Kandie was a nobody prior to 2019. This is ridiculous.

I have it on good faith that the course has been remeasured and has been found to be short

This is his far from extensive background.

https://worldathletics.org/athletes/kenya/kibiwott-kandie-14780952