Anyone had it with living in the US and seriously considered moving to another country to make a living? Not talking about retiring to a third world country but actually making a fresh start somewhere else. What would you do?
Anyone had it with living in the US and seriously considered moving to another country to make a living? Not talking about retiring to a third world country but actually making a fresh start somewhere else. What would you do?
Yeah, I plan to move once I finish school. It'll be far easier to obtain citizenship when highly educated and qualified.
Yep. The U.S. economy is ruined and is going to get worse. Many people are going to want to leave.
Where to? Somewhere of similar culture and language- Australia or Canada, for example? Maybe England?
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Where to? Somewhere of similar culture and language- Australia or Canada, for example? Maybe England?
What would you do there assuming that you'd have to start all over again? I think some countries are easier to start fresh than others. For example, I know quite a few people who have moved to Japan and became english teachers.
Both of my brothers have long careers and residencies overseas, one in the UK and one in Switzerland. One of my best college friends has been in Japan for over 20 years. Heck, there are Americans who've worked as petroleum engineers or executives in the Middle East for much of their professional lives. Being American doesn't necessarily mean living in America.
I can imagine that a life in Spain or Italy, both of which I've visited, could be quite nice.
I plan on learning a new language before moving to a truly foreign country. Britain seems okay, but it probably has nearly the same feel as America, save the awesome accents.
A specialised degree from some of the best US programmes should help one fit in the new culture.
If I hab been single I would have left during the GW Bush years. My wife didn't want to go, so we stayed. In retrospect, I'm glad we stayed and will continue to support intelligence over ignorance.
I've been thinking of moving to Asia. Perhaps, South Korea to do some teaching/traveling. I know some people over there.
I believe there is also a championship meet over there in August 2011.
Canada was my only bet, but, I've got a family. If it were just me, probably somewhere in South America like Brazil.
The best economic opportunities are probably in the BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China).
If you like devloped English speaking countries, consider Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore.
If you want to remain in the West, but language isn't a barrier, consider, Norway, Switzerland, Irealand, and The Netherlands.
All are likely to be far better off than the US.
Yes, I agree, the more people that leave this lousy country, the more is left for the rest of us. Go to Australia, going on the dole there is the easiest thing in the world and you can always buy a tent and sleep out in the outback...Towamba has lots of beautiful countryside and you can run with the roos....or live in Roos, England another delightful location much more suited for the less than hardy who want to get away.
things that make ya say hmmm wrote:
Anyone had it with living in the US and seriously considered moving to another country to make a living?
No, no one has ever considered it...but in all seriousness, if you go to certain areas you will find tons of american (and other) expats. I've spent about three years of my life abroad, and will in all likelihood move to an overseas position within the next two years. If you want to go an english-speaking environment, then certain european or african countries, the caribbean, or australia/nz may be the best fit, but I'd say don't let the language barrier be a consideration. If you're considering a permanent move it's worth the time to learn the local language and culture, and even "hard" languages aren't so difficult if you're motivated to learn them. IMO the medium-long run future of economic and business growth is in asia, plus it's an exciting place to live and travel.
I am, as they say, of a certain age, and there was an era when it was automatically assumed that people with the means and opportunity would live part of their lives aboard because it was a broadening and enriching experience. There's a nativist streak in the U.S. now, but...the world's a big place.
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If you want to remain in the West, but language isn't a barrier, consider, Norway, Switzerland, Irealand, and The Netherlands.
Sure, they know English, but if you're actually going to LIVE there, you had better learn their actual languages (at least eventually) or they'll think you're a dick (with the exception of Ireland... Irish isn't really spoken anymore).
If you're miserably here you'll probably be miserably anywhere.
Willy K wrote:
i type faster wrote:If you want to remain in the West, but language isn't a barrier, consider, Norway, Switzerland, Irealand, and The Netherlands.
Sure, they know English, but if you're actually going to LIVE there, you had better learn their actual languages (at least eventually) or they'll think you're a dick (with the exception of Ireland... Irish isn't really spoken anymore).
I dunno about that, I had a friend whose Korean dad has lived in Denmark over 30 years and doesn't speak Danish, talks to my friend and his mom in English. In urban areas I doubt they mind much. Though linguistically speaking, it's one of the easier languages for an anglophone to pick up and IMO worth learning if you're serious about moving there.
You read my mind. I just came from a month long trip to Mexico. I visited Mexico city for 1 week, Central Mexico (state of aguascalientes) for 2 weeks and Puerto Vallarta for 1 week. I never thought I would fall in love with Mexico before I left. I had the best time of my life and now having been back to the states for a month I can't stop thinking about my trip, the people I met, and all the places I went to. It's like an addiction, I can't explain it. There's something about Mexico that just grabbed me and became part of me. I have never felt better or more comfortable in my life. I really can't explain it. It's like the pace of life over there allowed me to enjoy every single moment I was there, every single breath fealt good and right. Things like sitting at the plaza enjoying some ice cream, or having some little boy bother me with a million questions as I sat outside of the church steps, or just sitting at the bus station looking around at all the people's faces. I don't know what it is.
I have been thinking and really investigating of ways I could make a living in Mexico and go live there permanently. I would like to live either in Puerto Vallarta (amazing, amazing place) or in a small village in central Mexico (Aguascalientes, Jalisco, or Zacatecas). I think withing the next 5 years I will make the move. I already started looking into prices for properties in those areas and how much it would cost to build a house.
Im a US citizen, but honestly living here does not satisfy my life. I have a good job, but life here is so redundant, predictable, and steril. My life consists of this very redundant routine where I wake up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, watch an hour or 2 of TV, and go to sleep. Then I get to do that over and over and over again until I grow old and die. Life in the US is like that, we have everything we need materialistic wise, but that doesn't satisfy the human in us. Well, at least not me. I always asked myself if this was everything life is supposed to be.
This trip to Mexico changed my life. It made me feel so many different emotions I hadn't felt before. It made me appreciate life, and feel alive, and love life. This one month in Mexico made me feel like I was a part of the world, and I guess being in Mexico made me feel like I fit in. Like I had my place in the world, and that people valued me for being a human being. The people I met in Mexico treated me friendly and took the time to get to know me, laugh with me, and made me feel like I mattered. I think that's something we've forgotten in the US. I honestly don't even know the names of my neighbors and I've been living in my house for 4 years.
I'm just speaking for myself, but for me life here in the states is just not satisfying. Life is too short to be unhappy. I'm going to go where I feel I can enjoy my life better. I miss the sunsets of Puerto Vallarta, I miss eating fresh corn on the cob in La Labor, Aguascalientes, I miss Daniel, Luis, and Andres, the friends I made in Puerto Vallarta. I miss riding the metro in Mexico City, the faces of the people that each tell a different story, I miss the old lady on the side of the sidewalk trying to make a living selling tamales and atole. I miss swimming in the reservoir of "la presa de la codorniz" near La Labor, I miss you Mexico. I miss the smell of freshly made tortillas on a wood chimeny, i miss the food...oh the food. I miss the sound of the church bells on a Sunday morning and all the town people marching down for mass. I miss feeling the evening warm breeze in my face right before sunset. I miss eating fresh bread and drinking coffee with new friends while sitting on the sidewalk outside of their home at 9 at night laughing and joking about anything and everything....I miss you Mexico.
I would never ever go to Brazil. Those guys are phony.
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You read my mind. I just came from a month long trip to Mexico. I visited Mexico city for 1 week, Central Mexico (state of aguascalientes) for 2 weeks and Puerto Vallarta for 1 week.....
Wow man, sounds like you had an amazing experience. I imagine you did this trip through an organization? If so, could you tell me what it was? You can send me an e-mail if you'd rather not post the info on here.