Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread

Is that you, kip?

2:49 cell runner wrote:

Has anyone looked at the Jim Rhoades photos for the other years kip ran Boston (2004-2009)?

I looked at the 2009 photos at the 30K point from page 40-80. Nothing that looked like Kip, looking quickly only at runners without a bib showing.

return to index wrote:

Guys, a possible breakthrough for the P.f. Chang Rock n Roll Arizona Marathon 2010 where Kip supposedly ran 2:51:21.

I checked the "More Runner Pictures" section and found at the start (way in the back) a guy fully dressed (jeans and shoes) with a blue bandanna covering his face--exactly like the bandanna that Kip wore at Boston:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ik6d67YLaHY/TS-cydLos4I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/oNKPWObEGAI/s1600/outfitCOMP.jpg

I added two pictures of blue bandanna guy in Kip's picture folder for Rock n Roll Arizona (bib 1212):

http://tinyurl.com/4fjp53p

(if that doesn't work, go to

http://www.marathon-photos.com

> Arizona 2010 > Bib 1212)

F***ing hilarious. Whoever that dude is if I was a spectator and saw him I would crack up.

Marathon Guide has removed the results from the West Wyoming Marathon from their web site. They evidently have a sense of humor, though, as they left the runners' comments in place...

http://www.marathonguide.com/races/racedetails.cfm?MIDD=3777100703

Kyp Lyttyn wrote:

Marathon Guide has removed the results from the West Wyoming Marathon from their web site. They evidently have a sense of humor, though, as they left the runners' comments in place...

http://www.marathonguide.com/races/racedetails.cfm?MIDD=3777100703

Race was great. I PRed by hanging with the leader. We sipped Cokes together while driving point-to-point. Highly recommended.

did anyone else notice this? Here is proof of Kip's cheating. DROVE point to point.

former nb wearer wrote:

did anyone else notice this? Here is proof of Kip's cheating. DROVE point to point.

No shit, pal. They were all jokes by LRers. The original one ("Small race, with only a couple dozen runners. Bring your own gels; only water is available on course. Out-and-back route. No spectators to speak of. Sounds like a downer, but the view and the town are so worth it! Cross Wyoming off of your list and visit one of the most beautiful towns in the US at the same time.") was almost assuredly by the Kippster himself.

For the record, here's a link to his Maine half marathon photos from Oct 2010. This is the race where the bike followed him the whole way. First time I've seen him break a sweat, so he probably actually ran the entire way. Pace is slow compared to his other races...

Bib #380

http://orders.racephotonetwork.com/QPPlus/SearchBibNumber.aspx?_AccountNumber=6868&EventID=938713

I'm with you, not wearing 4 times as much clothing as those around him and actually sweating. Looks like he probably ran this one.Those Boston pics where he was all bundled up compared to everyone around him were strange.

Dan the Masters Man wrote:

For the record, here's a link to his Maine half marathon photos from Oct 2010. This is the race where the bike followed him the whole way. First time I've seen him break a sweat, so he probably actually ran the entire way. Pace is slow compared to his other races...

Bib #380

http://orders.racephotonetwork.com/QPPlus/SearchBibNumber.aspx?_AccountNumber=6868&EventID=938713

I think earlier in this thread on one of the other pages, one of the workers at Maine Half Marathon said before that she believed Kip switched from the Maine Marathon to the Half Marathon once he realized he was going to be followed

anyway here were Kip's results from that Maine Half 1:28

45 380 Kip Litton 49 43/769 M 6/93 M4549 Davison MI 1:28:14 6:44 1:28:14

so he's bib #380, pop that in

Is that a Vermont City Marathon t-shirt he's wearing? May 30th?

Doesn't seem to like running shorts much, I guess those bike shorts and tights would be real convenient if you needed to hop on a bike for a quick spin.

There once was a guy named Kip

To Boston he did take a trip

He did huff and puff

But the going was tough

So a few miles he decided to skip

Kyp Lyttyn wrote:

Marathon Guide has removed the results from the West Wyoming Marathon from their web site. They evidently have a sense of humor, though, as they left the runners' comments in place...

http://www.marathonguide.com/races/racedetails.cfm?MIDD=3777100703

Thanks, worth the read. I got a great chuckle. I too am suspicious of the first post.

How did he realize beforehand that he was going to be followed? Who did the following?

Study of K.Litton Running wrote:

I think earlier in this thread on one of the other pages, one of the workers at Maine Half Marathon said before that she believed Kip switched from the Maine Marathon to the Half Marathon once he realized he was going to be followed

anyway here were Kip's results from that Maine Half 1:28

45 380 Kip Litton 49 43/769 M 6/93 M4549 Davison MI 1:28:14 6:44 1:28:14

so he's bib #380, pop that in

Hey those shorts are the same ones of the other guy from Boston Marathon wearing the blue jackets. His glasses are the same ones as the guy covered up Bandana over his face) from the PF Chang race.

Dan the Masters Man wrote:

For the record, here's a link to his Maine half marathon photos from Oct 2010. This is the race where the bike followed him the whole way. First time I've seen him break a sweat, so he probably actually ran the entire way. Pace is slow compared to his other races...

Bib #380

http://orders.racephotonetwork.com/QPPlus/SearchBibNumber.aspx?_AccountNumber=6868&EventID=938713

florida oldtimer wrote:

Hey those shorts are the same ones of the other guy from Boston Marathon wearing the blue jackets. His glasses are the same ones as the guy covered up Bandana over his face) from the PF Chang race.

Dan the Masters Man wrote:

For the record, here's a link to his Maine half marathon photos from Oct 2010. This is the race where the bike followed him the whole way. First time I've seen him break a sweat, so he probably actually ran the entire way. Pace is slow compared to his other races...

Bib #380

http://orders.racephotonetwork.com/QPPlus/SearchBibNumber.aspx?_AccountNumber=6868&EventID=938713

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I can't tell about the PF Chang one, but you're right about the bike shorts matching the blue raincoat guy at Boston!

How many hats did that guy go through at Boston?

THE KIP LITTON TIMELINE SO FAR Date Event Gun Time Net Time Difference Key Suspicions

05/23/09 Bayshore (Michigan) Marathon 02:55:40 02:52:58 00:02:42 huge negative split from 1:30:13 1st Half to 1:22:45 2nd Half

09/06/09 New Mexico Marathon 02:57:53 5000ft Altitude didn't affect Litton

01/17/10 PF Chang Arizona Marathon 02:55:28 02:51:21 00:04:07 video shows him walking it in, net difference

02/27/10 Gasparilla 15K 00:54:05

02/27/10 Gasparilla 5K 00:17:33 walking during a 17:33 5K

02/27/10 Gasparilla Marathon 02:53:52

03/20/10 Shamrock (Virginia) 8K 00:29:10 Bundled up in heavy clothing, walking

03/21/10 Shamrock (Virginia) Marathon 02:53:15 outfit change

04/11/10 Go St. Louis Marathon 02:59:31 02:54:25 00:05:06 missing splits for 6miles & 20miles

04/18/10 BAA Boston 5K Road Race large difference from gun v. net (4:04)...picture show him finishing with 21min 5K'ers despite supposedly running 5:34 pace

04/19/10 BAA BOSTON MARATHON 02:52:12 outfit change

05/02/10 Providence COX Marathon 02:52:39 wearing different shoes

05/16/10 Delaware Marathon DISQUALIFIED – 02:57:16 RACE DIRECTOR dQ'ed him, didn't appear in photos

05/30/10 KeyBank Vermont City Marathon 02:53:36 02:49:02 00:04:34 race staff labeled suspicious – 6:11pace for final 10K

07/03/10 West Wyoming Marathon Race doesnt exist – FABRICATED a 02:56:12 N/A FABRICATION – Kip came in 1st place but Race does NOT EXIST! (confirmed by marathonguide.com)

07/11/10 Missoula Montana Marathon DISQUALIFIED – 02:49 RACE DIRECTOR dQ'ed him, didn't appear in photos

10/03/10 Maine Half Marathon time slow relative to other performances. Followed by race staff on bike to ensure he ran full distance.

12/01/10 Charlotte Thunderbird Marathon 03:00:24 02:55:20 00:05:04 Speeds up to 6:11pace from 13.1 to 20miles, walking at finish

Has anyone noticed that the guy from the Boston photo that we have all dismissed as NOT being Kip:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ik6d67YLaHY/TS-PDkNrjvI/AAAAAAAAAHI/09F3u9YRswM/s1600/kip66666.jpg

is wearing the exact same half tights as Kip was wearing in the Maine Half Marathon -- that is quite a coincidence, no?!!!

http://orders.racephotonetwork.com/QPPlus/SearchBibNumber.aspx?_AccountNumber=6868&EventID=938713

Select Bib #380

Maybe these tights are more common than I think - I've personally never seen them before:

Skins Half Tights

http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpageMRA-SMHTI.html

Please add the Gasparilla trio for 2009 to the FAIL list. There are pics of him walking the finish of the 5k that year, too.

I think we'll need to dig up more dirt on New Mexico. The altitude argument isn't very convincing. The elevation profile for Fort Collins is similar and I got a typical time.