Let's get to the bottom of why so many of you seem to dislike Gwen Jorgensen

troll under a bridge wrote:

A woman named Gwen Jorgensen set an ambitious goal for herself. Whether she achieves it or fails to do so will not affect your life in anyway. I am intrigued by her pursuit but ambivalent about the results. Meanwhile, everything she says or does inevitably results in hundreds of replies on this message board.

So what's the real reason some of you yahoos are so irked by her pursuit of her goals that do not affect your life in any way what so ever?

I to am intrigued by her pursuit, but wish to see he do well. Unlike, it appears, most that have weighed in. I don't understand, why some would wish ill on an athlete of her caliber. Except perhaps that the bulk of the people on these boards are male, and she likely:

1.) Is a better triathlete than they are, if they compete in that sport and,

2.) Is a better runner than they are, if they even compete.

3.) She is also a gold medalist. Most if not all of her detractors likely will never have a prayer of getting to this level, or even qualifying for the trials in anything. Or winning a local road race or event in a track meet ( I may be wrong in this last sentence but I doubt it).

She has expressed her goals, they are lofty. She's a marketer. I've not noted any tears or sobbing when she does not do as well as she expects. Good for her. If there were more Gwen's in the sport of USA T & F, it would be quite a bit more popular, I suspect.

mofong wrote:

maybe this wrote:

I know exactly what they mean. She was audacious to say her goal is win the gold medal in the Olympic marathon. She has literally no chance of ever doing that.

Boastful is not a descriptor of having ambitious (or in your mind, unrealistic) goals.

Yes it is, and laughable so.

Word misuse aside, keep telling people to have less ambitious goals - I'm sure it will pay dividends.

I don"t know if this applies to GJ but it seems people think she is an attention whore?

Many LR posters are old guys with lots of time to complain about things. This blatant monetization of running success and profit motive cult of personality, or sex symbol or female power thing, or whatever these things people are doing as distance runners wasn't something we grew up with. It's embarrassing in a way. But sure, people need to make money.

Seems like younger men are probably just jealous.

Cringeworthy running form

mofong wrote:

Word misuse aside, keep telling people to have less ambitious goals - I'm sure it will pay dividends.

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

adiBRO wrote:

Cringeworthy running form

Whatever it takes, look at how Alberto Salazar ran.

It's the Lucas V effect.

Runners are furious when 'non-runners' are actually runners, and have better results than these runners themselves. It's impossible, you see, to swim, and/or ride a bike, and/or lift a lot of weights, then somehow run very fast times. No! Running fast requires tons of miles, or not enough miles, or miles around a groomed field at Nike HQ, or miles in high dewpoints, wind, rain, and heat/cold. These aren't runners, only I can say who is a runner, and today's runners aren't runners!

It's well known in running circles that triathletes are rubbish at their individual sports so for a half-runner to announce they will win Olympic gold is arrogant to the point of being funny. What Gwen is basically saying is that triathletes are SUPERIOR to runners even though they only do it a third of the time. If she had real talent she wouldn't do the triathlon.

I would react the same if Brownlee said he was going to the win the Olympic marathon.

maybe this wrote:

mofong wrote:

Word misuse aside, keep telling people to have less ambitious goals - I'm sure it will pay dividends.

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

It's "borne" out, brother. Good luck to your preferred runners who set easy goals.

mofong wrote:

maybe this wrote:

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

It's "borne" out, brother. Good luck to your preferred runners who set realistic goals.

Fixed that for you :)

mofong wrote:

maybe this wrote:

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

It's "borne" out, brother. Good luck to your preferred runners who set easy goals.

As I said, I dislike her for her attitude, not for her choice of goal.

Irrelevant to my feelings towards Gwen.

I just don't like to watch runners with poor form. She seems like nice person otherwise.

maybe this wrote:

mofong wrote:

Word misuse aside, keep telling people to have less ambitious goals - I'm sure it will pay dividends.

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

Ah yes, the constant LRC theme...Runners who are social media are attention whores. The other constant LRC theme, we don't know anything about the runners since they never share with us. JESUS H CHRIST, people here need to grow the F up.

It's called hubris. Generally speaking, most people find it to be a negative quality - a social turnoff, if you will.

Hubris engenders schadenfreude. There's a natural cause and effect here...

NYC-NYC wrote:

maybe this wrote:

I told you why I don't like her: I found that off-putting. I don't mind if you like her. There are runners who are much better than her who don't draw attention to themselves by saying their goal is Olympic gold, even though it is. Her attention-whore ways are born out by incessant social media usage.

Ah yes, the constant LRC theme...Runners who are social media are attention whores. The other constant LRC theme, we don't know anything about the runners since they never share with us. JESUS H CHRIST, people here need to grow the F up.

Right?

InaWord wrote:

It's called hubris. Generally speaking, most people find it to be a negative quality - a social turnoff, if you will.

Hubris engenders schadenfreude. There's a natural cause and effect here...

She's setting herself up for a lot of schadenfreude.

I mean, she was beat by three women including Rochelle Kanuho at the USATF half championships. There really are no words.

It's past disrespectful to other elite runners, it's genuinely funny.

aoxomoxoa wrote:

John Utah wrote:

http://archive.jsonline.com/images.ashx?file=28007154_Jorgensen_Gwen_NCAA_Reg_09_3%20(Small).jpg&resize=https://www.camprandall100.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Picture-039_body_1200w.jpghttps://www.camprandall100.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Jorgensen_Gwen_Track_07_body_1200w-714x1000.jpg

You missed the USA Track photos...or maybe you didn't read that far in my comment?

She was busy winning an Olympic gold medal.