What is the dumbest COVID denial left? all the big ones have fallen

game over wrote:

2,600

61,001

peaked in march

let me know when it reaches 1 death in a million

it's just the flu

no excess deaths

Italy is an anomaly

no recession coming

experts were predicting 2 million deaths guaranteed!

..are any of the LRC denier claims still standing?

seems like they've all been debunked........

Remember folks....next time you see a climate change denier skoffing at science.......science usually wins.

Or in this case counting.

Inject cleaners....it's been debunked since Trump supporters did try it!

Belarus wrote:

game over wrote:

so still some dummies out there. You really think this ends at 70k? thats like 5-6 days away at the current rate.

the vast majority most of those 60k were in the last month......were talking about equaling the worst flu season in most of our lifetimes....happening in a matter of weeks. Anyone still pretending this is like the flu at this point is either a troll or too dumb for their opinion to matter. 'Fact resistant' as i like to say

Current total projected by August: 72,864

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

"My location is starting to ease social distancing measures. How are you addressing this?

For locations that have eased or lifted social distancing measures, we are only showing projections for roughly a week in the future in our visualization tool. Currently, our model does not yet reflect how easing or lifting these measures could increase COVID-19 infections and deaths. We are working to project COVID-19 trends in areas that have eased social distancing measures, and we will release these projections as soon as possible."

That they aren't completely cooking the books to justify their incompetence and corruption.

C19 is the first disease in history from which you can officially die without any firm evidence that you actually had it.

This “wave” of excess mortality, is a direct consequence of the lockdown (house arrest) as has recently been highlighted by NHS data analysts Edge Health.

Let's not forget this all started with the false statistical modeling of the Imperial College- who's track record is atrocious and who receives plenty of Pharma funding. Let's also not forget that the CDC and the WHO are also primarily funded by big business with their largest contributors being connected to Big Pharma.

It's an all in one seasonal virus, method of social control and business model.

It's never too late to educate yourself:

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Probably the dumbest one left is that the only thing keeping the economy from being normal is government restrictions. As if 27 million people in the US are going to immediately be employed if the government said do whatever you want. The idea that we will quickly bounce out of this global recession is pure fantasy. It is going to be bad for a long time. It probably won’t be until mid summer when this really starts to sink in for the average person.

The fact that you were “at the top of your class” doesn’t make you dumb. The fact that you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re” does. With your numerous grammatical errors and tin foil hat philosophies I consider myself and the rest of the world lucky that you didn’t have the work ethic and bedside manner to become a physician. Also you’re crazy.

I for one am enjoying this period of social conditioning. I don’t have to work. It great. Plus I can collect unemployment and the bailout check and be fine. Whatever this is I’m confident my government will take care of it.

I’m confident my government will eventually take care if it, as long as we never have another election lol.

Biggest myth is that we can get back to normal before the virus is under control without having another big outbreak. Every country that loosened restrictions before having the virus under control has had to immediately back track. The US is going to learn that the hard way.

I actually find the sh#t logic of the corona virus deniers to be pretty amazing. The best ones are the death cult logic. It basically is some sort of major premise about COVID 19 deaths that leads to the conclusion that the virus is not a big deal. Examples: COVID 19 is more wide spread than originally thought and the death rate is actually lower. Therefore, COVID 19 is not such a big deal. COVID 19 deaths are mostly elderly. Therefore, you don't need to worry about the virus. COVID 19 deaths are mostly people with pre-existing conditions. Thus, it is not a problem for everyone else. These arguments completely ignore the fact that COVID 19 has a very high hospitalization rate for all ages, causes blood clots, lung damage and other complications even in healthy people and 62k dead people is a sh#t ton of dead people even if they were all living on borrowed time.

The other bad one is the "we don't shut down the country because people get hurt playing lawn darts". The problem is that none of the examples given match what would happen if COVID 19 were allowed to spread unchecked. We are now surpassing the death toll from some of the worst recent flu seasons after only a few weeks. And that is with most of the country in a shut down. We will probably be close to 100k deaths at the end of May unless state go quickly back into lockdown. There is nothing comparable to that kind of death toll.

Allen53 wrote:

That they aren't completely cooking the books to justify their incompetence and corruption.

You got caught cooking the books, hypocrite.

PaulG wrote:

Outside of New York, this is an average flu season for the rest of the country. Here in Virginia, our flu + COVID deaths are still less than 2018 flu deaths over the same date range(Jan. 1 to today)

How do some people still not understand?

Those are the numbers WITH QUARANTINING/SOCIAL DISTANCING in place. They would be significantly higher otherwise.

It's unfair to compare "61,000" with the current flu season.

It's more proper to compare the "+80,000 died" number.

So it's first estimate vs first estimate.

"When I’m writing up my death report I’m being pressured to add COVID.

Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add COVID? To maybe increase the numbers, and make it look a little bit worse than it is. We’re being pressured in-house to add COVID to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not COVID, but it’s being reported as one of the disease processes and being added to the death list."

facts and reason wrote:

It's more proper to compare the "+80,000 died" number.

So it's first estimate vs first estimate.

56,000 deaths in one month. Would you suggest that's worse than 81,000 in a whole season?

game over wrote:

2,600

61,001

peaked in march

let me know when it reaches 1 death in a million

it's just the flu

no excess deaths

Italy is an anomaly

no recession coming

experts were predicting 2 million deaths guaranteed!

..are any of the LRC denier claims still standing?

seems like they've all been debunked........

Remember folks....next time you see a climate change denier skoffing at science.......science usually wins.

How about next year let's look at this year's total death statistics and see if there is indeed a significant 'bump' like one would expect from a pandemic?

trollism wrote:

56,000 deaths in one month. Would you suggest that's worse than 81,000 in a whole season?

You are lying, or you are misinterpreting the data.

Patient zero could have arrived in February from Wuhan, China for New York's Chinese parade.

Others have anecdotally said they had a flu in late 2019 and didn't test positive for influenza. This unlabeled flu may have been COVID-19.

You cannot trust anything the communists in China are saying about the origin or timing of this virus.

recession deniers wrote:

Probably the dumbest one left is that the only thing keeping the economy from being normal is government restrictions. As if 27 million people in the US are going to immediately be employed if the government said do whatever you want. The idea that we will quickly bounce out of this global recession is pure fantasy. It is going to be bad for a long time. It probably won’t be until mid summer when this really starts to sink in for the average person.

What's your alternative? We lose 3M jobs per week until we all starve or we devolve into total anarchy? It's absolutely the case that 27M jobs were lost as a direct result of lockdowns. There is a fair question of whether a large number of jobs would have been lost anyway if people chose not to go to places like Disney World, but we'll never know since people weren't given a choice.

Unfortunately, there will be a bump due to all of the suicides and murders. Had we allowed Corona to run its course, there would have been no bump. The larger increase will be over the next year though for the same reasons and heart attacks and disease from being locked away and from stress and from poor nutrition.

facts and reason wrote:

You are lying, or you are misinterpreting the data.

On April 1st (The first day of the month) there were approximately 6,000 reported deaths from COVID-19 in the US, and then on April 30th (Which is today and also the last day of the month) there have been approximately 62,000.

I then got my scientific calculator out and worked out that the difference between 62,000 and 6,000 is 56,000.

trollism wrote:

I then got my scientific calculator out and worked out that the difference between 62,000 and 6,000 is 56,000.

"Most people with symptoms had them by day 12. And most of the other ill people were sick by day 14."

People who died in the beginning of a month may have been suffering with COVID-19 for weeks.

There's an incubation period, and there also may have been co-morbidities which the victim had been suffering with for a long time.

"1 month" is an inaccurate representation. It's a guess because scientists themselves don't know who patient zero is.