Will Facts Matters apologize next week?

What all of you continue to fail to realize is that the virus was here much longer than what is being reported so when you say a certain amount of deaths in 2 months, it is not true. It's like you all want more people to die in as short of amount of time so you can be more right. It's disgusting. I'm willing to bet that as these antibody tests continue to be done we will find that the virus was here much earlier, and many more people have had it then we previously conceived, therefore lowering the death statistics you cling to.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Webbasedreading wrote:

Facts Matter: I never said anything like 61,001 is the number to shut me up.

Also Facts Matter: 61,001 is the number to shut me up

Either way, we are nowhere near 61,001. I’d say Facts Matter is sitting pretty.

Absolutely. Calling someone a liar for claiming that you said something you actually said puts any disputant in the catbird's seat.

Liberalisism is proving to be a far worse disease than Covid19 ever could. WHY do liberals want the death toll to be worse than it actually is? Its maddening.

Guys seriously what the hell are we arguing about. It's clearly not as bad as we thought or all the Panic warranted

Yeah it sucks that we have another bad respiratory illness. But the good news is that nowhere close to a million people are going to die in the US

Let's to be cautious but things are moving in the right direction. It looks like it's going to keep declining

All lives matter but we don't Outlaw and ban automobiles because some people die every year from them

Let's be reasonable we have to get the economy going again and get people back on track. It's not sustainable that we can all just sit in our house for the rest of the year

From all the evidence I see I think this one spike is basically all it's going to be. It's going to keep declining week by week and that's going to be the end of it.

China's got things back on track. And there's been no great reoccurrence. Same with other Asian countries. Let's start to get the economy going in small steps and we'll see what happens.

mmk, really? wrote:

What all of you continue to fail to realize is that the virus was here much longer than what is being reported so when you say a certain amount of deaths in 2 months, it is not true. It's like you all want more people to die in as short of amount of time so you can be more right. It's disgusting. I'm willing to bet that as these antibody tests continue to be done we will find that the virus was here much earlier, and many more people have had it then we previously conceived, therefore lowering the death statistics you cling to.

ummm....so you're saying that some of 40,000 people that have died in the last few weeks.....actually died......in November?

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Webbasedreading wrote:

Facts Matter: I never said anything like 61,001 is the number to shut me up.

Also Facts Matter: 61,001 is the number to shut me up

Either way, we are nowhere near 61,001. I’d say Facts Matter is sitting pretty.

Careful, brother. Folks around here will nail you hard with your own foolhardy words. They will take your "nowhere near" bit and smack you upside the head with it. It's called being "hoisted with your own petard." It's an old saying, but it fits.

You really don't want that, or else you'll end up like your spazzing out buddy there. Then you get caught in the conundrum he is in as we speak, of whether to man up or spazz out. It's got to be unpleasant.

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Careful, brother. Folks around here will nail you hard with your own foolhardy words. They will take your "nowhere near" bit and smack you upside the head with it. It's called being "hoisted with your own petard." It's an old saying, but it fits.

You really don't want that, or else you'll end up like your spazzing out buddy there. Then you get caught in the conundrum he is in as we speak, of whether to man up or spazz out. It's got to be unpleasant.

I don't think most people care nearly as much as you think they do

Hi there wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Careful, brother. Folks around here will nail you hard with your own foolhardy words. They will take your "nowhere near" bit and smack you upside the head with it. It's called being "hoisted with your own petard." It's an old saying, but it fits.

You really don't want that, or else you'll end up like your spazzing out buddy there. Then you get caught in the conundrum he is in as we speak, of whether to man up or spazz out. It's got to be unpleasant.

I don't think most people care nearly as much as you think they do

Well, the one person they are doing it to seems to care. Seems to care a lot. You'd agree he completely threw a fit? So judging by that, is it that wrong for me to assume that when they come for Lenny Leonard, that he won't feel similarly emasculated? Was it wrong for me to warn poor Lenny of his fate if he continues down that path?

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Hi there wrote:

I don't think most people care nearly as much as you think they do

Well, the one person they are doing it to seems to care. Seems to care a lot. You'd agree he completely threw a fit? So judging by that, is it that wrong for me to assume that when they come for Lenny Leonard, that he won't feel similarly emasculated? Was it wrong for me to warn poor Lenny of his fate if he continues down that path?

I think you're throwing a fit.

Hi there wrote:

he is wrong though wrote:

The IMHE is a shltmodel. We’ll hit 100k by August... I find it hard to see how we’re under 100k at the end of May barring a ‘miracle.’

I trust the IHME model more than I trust you.

Don’t trust either. Look at the data. Spain and Italy hit their peaks about a month ago. They still have 40-60% of their peak numbers dying every day. Assuming US is at its peak there will still be 1100-1800 dying per day a month from now. That puts us at 105-130k by June 1st.

With some states lifting restrictions now though, I’d say closer to 150k is more likely.

A lot of folks argue that Covid-19 is comparable to a bad flu because the number of deaths from the former is comparable to the number of deaths from the latter during a regular flu season. But the numbers are comparable only after an unprecedentedly broad lockdown of society - something we never do during a normal flu season. If we hadn’t engaged in such a lockdown and just let Covid-19 spread unhindered, then the number of deaths resulting from that strategy likely would have been significantly higher than the number of deaths from the flu, right?

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Webbasedreading wrote:

Facts Matter: I never said anything like 61,001 is the number to shut me up.

Also Facts Matter: 61,001 is the number to shut me up

Either way, we are nowhere near 61,001. I’d say Facts Matter is sitting pretty.

Lenny, I'd bow out if I were you.

on 04/01 Lenny Leonard wrote:

We are basically at the peak now. In a couple weeks we will be breathing a sigh of relief. There will still be many sick, but this thing will be losing serious steam.

well, 3 weeks and 40,000 American COVID-19 deaths later...almost 3,000 American COVID-19 deaths just today.

he is wrong though wrote:

Don’t trust either. Look at the data. Spain and Italy hit their peaks about a month ago. They still have 40-60% of their peak numbers dying every day. Assuming US is at its peak there will still be 1100-1800 dying per day a month from now. That puts us at 105-130k by June 1st.

With some states lifting restrictions now though, I’d say closer to 150k is more likely.

You tell me not to trust either, but you're still going to tell me how 150k are going to die based off of a worst case scenario prediction. Would it be fair to characterize what you say as pessimism and leave it at that?

promises matter wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Either way, we are nowhere near 61,001. I’d say Facts Matter is sitting pretty.

Lenny, I'd bow out if I were you.

on 04/01 Lenny Leonard wrote:

We are basically at the peak now. In a couple weeks we will be breathing a sigh of relief. There will still be many sick, but this thing will be losing serious steam.

well, 3 weeks and 40,000 American COVID-19 deaths later...almost 3,000 American COVID-19 deaths just today.

You sounds positively giddy about those deaths. Sounds like you want more and more people to die so you can be right in your own mind. Gross.

Hmm. I do agree that at some point, we have to reopen.

But I don’t think that will occur until we have an antibody test that is available for all. The way things are going with so many public gatherings (crowds in large numbers to protest, Florida opening beaches, ect), I cant see our numbers declining.

New York has been on strict lock down. It’s illegal to go out without a mask if you can’t social distance. Non essential business are still closed. I’ve been working from home for over a month now.

Other regions are not doing this. Therefore, I can’t see our overall numbers decline.

China did lower their cases, but they also welded people into their homes to avoid spread. That’s not happening in America. I hope I’m wrong.

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Either way, we are nowhere near 61,001. I’d say Facts Matter is sitting pretty.

Careful, brother. Folks around here will nail you hard with your own foolhardy words. They will take your "nowhere near" bit and smack you upside the head with it. It's called being "hoisted with your own petard." It's an old saying, but it fits.

You really don't want that, or else you'll end up like your spazzing out buddy there. Then you get caught in the conundrum he is in as we speak, of whether to man up or spazz out. It's got to be unpleasant.

I've already been proven right, many times over, it's just that no one digs up where I said that the mortality rate was no where near 3%, or where I said that the 2.2 million prediction would be lowered and then explained away as social distancing prior to it happening. . Or where I said the 100,000 to 240,000 projection would keep going down. All that is left is to see how right, or how wrong I was on the exact number. If you have not seen the shift in attitude, you have not been paying attention. I think you have seen it and that's what pisses you off most. People are listening. So many people on board with this being an overreaction. You hate that they don't listen to you. You get so angry. You seethe with it. Your jealousy is transparent.

I meant to write that New York numbers have been decreasing as a result of strict social distancing. Since not everybody is obliging, this isn’t going to quickly get better.

Hi there wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Well, the one person they are doing it to seems to care. Seems to care a lot. You'd agree he completely threw a fit? So judging by that, is it that wrong for me to assume that when they come for Lenny Leonard, that he won't feel similarly emasculated? Was it wrong for me to warn poor Lenny of his fate if he continues down that path?

I think you're throwing a fit.

It's not about me, man. It's not about you either. It's about Lenny. You going to be here to console him next Monday, April 27 when they beat him over the head with his own "nowhere near" post? Huh? You going to be there for him, in your dingy socks? I don't think so. You'll be all silent. Fair weathered friend.

Mondo Hondo wrote:

It's not about me, man. It's not about you either. It's about Lenny. You going to be here to console him next Monday, April 27 when they beat him over the head with his own "nowhere near" post? Huh? You going to be there for him, in your dingy socks? I don't think so. You'll be all silent. Fair weathered friend.

It's actually about how I find concern trolling annoying.