What would you rather see?
He got the potential to break both, but he can only choose one.
1. Break MJ's 400m WR and possibly sub-43, to do this he needs more muscles, and will start bulking up, there's no way he can run sub-1.40.
2. Run 800m sub-1.40, he decides not to bulk up and keep the same size.
I rather see a 1.39.99 than 42.99, what do you guys think?
"He got the potential to break both"
care to elaborate on this claim?? as far as im aware he has NEVER run an 800m.....so whats this based on?
interestingly, when speaking on the BBC Johnson claimed that many 400m runners are too bulky and said that Wariner had the perfect build for 400m running.
It's based on his stride, body and strength over the last 100m. Is 48+52 impossible? I think Wariner is the most talented athlete in the whole world, more talented than the Michael Phelps.
What is the "...he can only choose one." bit? Is there some restriction on doubling for Wariner? There are so few athletes who double at any events it is difficult to say who could do what and at what level. Look at what just happened in the 800/1500 and MJ in the 200/400--now what would be so strange about a 400/800? Statistically odd, yes, but not impossible.
He has ran under 44 with the muscles he has. What is the justification for needing to 'bulk up?' He seems okay as is. He is young and will get better in the natural progression of age.
How are you extending him to world class 800 metre running? Is there some 800m running history for him most people don't know about?
He said in interviews in Helsinki that will add some muscles to be able to challenge the world record. And I do believe you have to specialize at one event of you want to do your best at that given distance so that you will build specific endurance for that event, and not for 600m.
junior wrote:
as far as im aware he has NEVER run an 800m.....so whats this based on?
It's based on the fact that he's skinny.
And next year Kim Collins is moving up to 10k, and Liu Xiang is moving up to Steeple.
Sorry, but i see neither
The one to watch at 800m is Britain's 18-year old Martyn Rooney who got silver at the European under-20 champs this year in 46.44. He who clocked 44.8 in the 4x400m on Sunday but has already gone on record saying that he sees his long term future at 800m. His best at the moment is only 1.52 but he's intending to do some cross country races in the winter so that will be interesting. His coach ran was 48.3/1.48.2 back in the 1960s.
Johnson said on the BBC Wariner would need to put on another 20lbs if he is to challenge his world record,i think this would be too much bulk for 800m running.
If he stays as is he would make a brillant 800 man
greenback wrote:
Johnson said on the BBC Wariner would need to put on another 20lbs if he is to challenge his world record,i think this would be too much bulk for 800m running.
If he stays as is he would make a brillant 800 man
Johnson may have worked with one of the most successful 400m coaches in the worldd but what does he really know that justifies some of his comments. People are different physiologically. Does he have some kind of crystal ball that says adding 20 pounds to wariner will give him a chance to challenge the world record? How many other people out there have run 44 low and have not gone on to do anything. All this hype! wariner is good. i am not hating, but are we sure that in 6 years time he will be challenging that world record. do they have some kind of 6 year plan that we don't know about.
some comments made by Johnson are of a reality that 99.9% percent of people don't exist in. As reality goes, good runners don't make good coaches. Good runners aren't necessarilty all knowing pundits. For example using the word "strength" as opposed to "endurance". Not everything that Johnson says is true.
Wariner obviously values Johnson's input as MJ acts as an advisor to him. As you undoubtedly know, Wariner's coach is the smae guy who coached Johnson.
Fine, for the sake of argument i'll be an IDIOT and say warnier can run 1:45.00 right now. You think that he can tkae 4 seconds off that to break the world record. AND THEN you think he's gonna take 1.01 seconds more off that!?!?!?! He'd need the heart of 10 Alan Webb's just to be able to attempt it.
MJ said WILLIAMSON HAS MORE ENDURANCE THAN WARINER. If another 400m runner has better endurance, than he's probably not an 800m candidate.
You forget that Williamson is black, and not black in the way Lets Run wants distance guys to be.
Wariner will break neither. MJ had 19.32 wheels that Wariner will NEVER have.
I started to think that this was about race too. But then i remembered everyone trying to make MJ into an 800M runner back in the day. We all seem to have this dillusion that you can take somebody and double their distance for a sick time. If Gatlin can run 19.86 then stringing together two 21.5's shouldn't be a problem.
800m is a LOT different than 400m, with a whole different type of reduced turnover and fatigue. For going up only 1 distance, it probably requires the most drastic change in training versus any other step up.
Please kick yourself in the nuts. Wariner is not an 800m runner. He has never run the 800m. He doesn't have any chance of being a world-class 800m runner. he is a sprinter, and he is very good at the 400m. End of story,
Carl Lewis, Mike Marsh, Leroy Burrell, Dennis Mitchell, had blazing speed in the 100 and 200 but barely broke 46 in the 400m. Its nice to play fantasy track&Field but lets get to reality and let runners be themselves....look at Felix she is the fastest 100m/200m runner out there ( but she looks like she should be 800/1500/5000 because she is not built like Gail Devers and Jeremy W.is not built like Shawn Crawford We stereo type someones body stucture and times then say he or she should run this.
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