“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both”
Something to think about as government shuts down business, forces you to stay in your house, enforces curfews, locks up pastors for violating social distancing measures and is even able to tell you when you can and cannot go for a run.
Spitting quotes blindly, but ignoring the fact that a communicable disease which is easily transmitted in close contact with others and wrecks havoc on the elderly and immunocompromised is ravaging the world. This isn't some political situation, its literally the only chance we have of our hospitals not being overburdened with tens of thousands dead. Without social distancing, even little cities look like new york now. I guess its too much to ask that you give up track practice and drinking at the bar though, can't violate your sacred freedoms when your parents and grandparents lives are at stake.
Kvothe wrote:
Spitting quotes blindly, but ignoring the fact that a communicable disease which is easily transmitted in close contact with others and wrecks havoc on the elderly and immunocompromised is ravaging the world. This isn't some political situation, its literally the only chance we have of our hospitals not being overburdened with tens of thousands dead. Without social distancing, even little cities look like new york now. I guess its too much to ask that you give up track practice and drinking at the bar though, can't violate your sacred freedoms when your parents and grandparents lives are at stake.
You have bought every single thing that the MSM has sold us.
You say this is not political; I say the Congress just gave the ruling elites over $2 trillion in the Corona virus bill.
If this virus would have appeared at the time that quote was made, the church would thrive and the people would die.
Did we lose both when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus?
Did we ever regain either of them?
We’re giving up a lot of liberty, so the quote doesn’t fit the situation.
Waiting for jesse riley to weigh in before I comment.
Life, liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-liberty-coronavirus
Then vote out Trump.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Did we lose both when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus?
Did we ever regain either of them?
True - Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and implemented martial law because the Union was at war with the Confederacy. First, he was worried about spies from the CSA infiltrating the Union. Secondly, he didn't want any protesting to distract from the war effort. The U.S.A. isn't engaged in a Civil War right now. 750,000 died in that war.
Kvothe wrote:
Spitting quotes blindly, but ignoring the fact that a communicable disease which is easily transmitted in close contact with others and wrecks havoc on the elderly and immunocompromised is ravaging the world. This isn't some political situation, its literally the only chance we have of our hospitals not being overburdened with tens of thousands dead. Without social distancing, even little cities look like new york now. I guess its too much to ask that you give up track practice and drinking at the bar though, can't violate your sacred freedoms when your parents and grandparents lives are at stake.
Thanks for this comment.
Sometimes it's better to be smart instead of quoting some out of context quotes.
lower posers wrote:
Waiting for jesse riley to weigh in before I comment.
Ha, ha.
Always good to here the voice of reason first before commenting. Jesse is the Buddha of Trans Con racing.
We are staying home. We are washing our hands. We are social distancing. Now, can we aslo get rid of the hyperbole from kvothe, rachel , and the other resident idiots?
Where you alive for 911? We gave up privacy. Were you alive during wars that drafted men to fight overseas? Do you remember rationing? Hell, you don't remember even gasoline lines. Bow it out your behind
Hot Air Balloon popped wrote:
Where you alive for 911? We gave up privacy.
Duh. Every time we wait in line at the airport and strip down and shove our bags of 3 ounce shampoo through the scanner we are reminded of the liberties we gave up in response to 9/11.
I fear we will double down on the mistakes of the past and implement the TSA + Patriot Act on steroids in response to this.
Giles Corey wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
Spitting quotes blindly, but ignoring the fact that a communicable disease which is easily transmitted in close contact with others and wrecks havoc on the elderly and immunocompromised is ravaging the world. This isn't some political situation, its literally the only chance we have of our hospitals not being overburdened with tens of thousands dead. Without social distancing, even little cities look like new york now. I guess its too much to ask that you give up track practice and drinking at the bar though, can't violate your sacred freedoms when your parents and grandparents lives are at stake.
You have bought every single thing that the MSM has sold us.
You say this is not political; I say the Congress just gave the ruling elites over $2 trillion in the Corona virus bill.
I agree that money not going to those out of work is money poorly spent in the stimulus bill. We can only vote out the b-tards who rob the middle class to give to the rich. Social Distancing itself is not political, but unfortunately it can't work without those out of work being supported or a basic income.
Careful, you'll have a legion of fairy foo foos up in here calling you a murderer. Never you mind that 650,000 people die in the U.S. annually from heart disease (most cases preventable) and 3,000,000 people die globally annually from alcohol abuse (always preventable).
Can't control a virus, however. I was in for helping with social distancing at the beginning of this, but that was before the "bait and switch" with public health officials and politicians now moving the goal posts and dancing around the fact that they'll likely want to shut society down for months to a year.
Life, liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-liberty-coronavirus
He wrote that March 19, and there has been a downturn since then.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both”
^ Fake quote. The actual words are:
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." —Benjamin Franklin
That quote sounds like it applies to most everyone who joins the military (UCMJ).