12 miles at 5:59 pace! She’ll be an Olympian by 2021 for sure. discus.
12 miles at 5:59 pace! She’ll be an Olympian by 2021 for sure. discus.
She has more potential than Tuohy but Ewert might be overtrained just like Tuohy. She spends a lot of time running and racewalking, her training volume is already very high.
The Arkansas coach is MUCH better than the UNC coach so hopefully he'll develop Ewert well.
She probably is a favorite to make the Olympic team in the racewalk.
Please post a link to the source the next time, I had to search 1-2 min to find it (source: her Instagram story).
What would Tinman say about this kind of long run?
tin can man wrote:
She has more potential than Tuohy but Ewert might be overtrained just like Tuohy. She spends a lot of time running and racewalking, her training volume is already very high.
The Arkansas coach is MUCH better than the UNC coach so hopefully he'll develop Ewert well.
She probably is a favorite to make the Olympic team in the racewalk.
The extra year will only help her chances.
tin can man wrote:
What would Tinman say about this kind of long run?
Given that there's no context to it at all- no mention of weekly mileage, no clue on other workouts she's done, no idea of when she'll race or what distance or what her goal is- I'd hope he would either ask those questions or say nothing at all.
You are foolish. Tinman is a god of training wisdom. He knows everything. Tinman athletes do all of their runs at exact splits to the .00001 of a second.
dreamsbexomereality wrote:
12 miles at 5:59 pace! She’ll be an Olympian by 2021 for sure. discus.
Only needs to drop about a minute per mile. No problem! Give her a spot already.
Wow. I would expect close to 16 from such fitness.
I used to run 12 around 5:55 pace on unreasonably hard easy days in about 15:40 fitness.
macdaddy wrote:
Wow. I would expect close to 16 from such fitness.
I used to run 12 around 5:55 pace on unreasonably hard easy days in about 15:40 fitness.
Coupled with her close second to Tuohy at NXN, I would say 16:00-16:10 pretty much nails it.
And to the clueless one referencing her potential Olympic team odds, I only hope you are trolling.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Please post a link to the source the next time, I had to search 1-2 min to find it (source: her Instagram story).
https://i.imgur.com/iAZRSdR.png
Not like you had much else to do being shut down and all...
YMMV wrote:
macdaddy wrote:
Wow. I would expect close to 16 from such fitness.
I used to run 12 around 5:55 pace on unreasonably hard easy days in about 15:40 fitness.
Coupled with her close second to Tuohy at NXN, I would say 16:00-16:10 pretty much nails it.
And to the clueless one referencing her potential Olympic team odds, I only hope you are trolling.
She will make the olympics in the race walk so OP is indirectly correct.
YMMV wrote:
macdaddy wrote:
Wow. I would expect close to 16 from such fitness.
I used to run 12 around 5:55 pace on unreasonably hard easy days in about 15:40 fitness.
Coupled with her close second to Tuohy at NXN, I would say 16:00-16:10 pretty much nails it.
And to the clueless one referencing her potential Olympic team odds, I only hope you are trolling.
Actually you are wrong. She is the best race-walker in the country in any age group, which is what the original poster was referencing (if that poster follows her on social media, he clearly knows she's going for the Olympics in the race walk). She just needs to hit the Olympic Standard as she's a lock for top 3 in the nation. The extra year will help with that tremendously.
This was a pointless run. She will burn out in 2 years time...mark my words.
Just needs to improve on cheating a bit with the form.
tin can man wrote:
What would Tinman say about this kind of long run?
It's 12 miles at ~MP/Tinman Tempo, Tinman would never assign this kind of long run for a HS kid. Hunter (~2-3 min faster in a 5k than Ewert at that time) never did hard long runs, he kept his long runs relaxed and typical tempos were 4-6 mile long (around 5:35 pace in the summer prior to his senior year).
This 12 mile long run, all at MP does not seem specific for the 1500-5k events Ewert is focusing on. It might help her significantly with race walking, I don't know much about the sport but it's probably more like a 10k or half marathon than a mile or 3k.
It's probably fine as long as she doesn't hammer a long run like this every week. Tinman would have her run 9-10 miles easy, and then maybe, if she feels good pick it up during the last 2-3 miles.
Grant Fisher, got down to 6:30 pace on long runs, which is faster than Hunter, but slower than Ewert. But again - he was 2-3 min faster in a 5k. When you look at Milesplit training logs, you often see HS girls completely killing it on easy days and long runs, and then sometimes getting injured either in the summer or shortly afterwards. Lots of these training blogs are filled with cross-training, since they are constantly beat up in the legs and/or injured. Just because someone is extremely talented, like Ewert, Claudia Lane, Kate Murphy, etc., does not mean they can just go nuts on each easy/long run without having to pay for it one time.
72 does not a long run make.
It’s a hard threshold workout. Unless she’s doing it every week, it’s whatever.
This run to put it simply, is completely bonkers. She runs a 10:16 3200 and has the fitness to do 12 miles at sub 6 pace on a solo long run in trainers?! There is no way this wasn’t a race type effort. Kudos to her for slogging it out though.
Daniel88 wrote:
This run to put it simply, is completely bonkers. She runs a 10:16 3200 and has the fitness to do 12 miles at sub 6 pace on a solo long run in trainers?! There is no way this wasn’t a race type effort. Kudos to her for slogging it out though.
She is very strong aerobically. In addition to running, she does a lot of racewalking, which is highly aerobic, like cycling or cross-country skiing. It is NOT threshold (which is 60 min pace) for her, it is around MP/"Tinman Tempo" or the same effort Lydiard used for hard 10-milers in his base phase. In a race, she could maintain this speed for around 2-2.5 hours. She reaches lactate levels of ~2.5 mmol at this speed.
Still, the volume is unnecessarily big for a HS kid and not important for her current events. It's also a trade-off - I'd rather have her work on her threshold/CV or speed right now, than to waste precious recovery time and a hard session on a moderate/hard long run.
A 10:12 2 miler can run 60 min 12 miler?
