So let's say that you're feeling great and were scheduled to race an 800 later this month, but it got cancelled.
Your PR is 2:03, and you're bummed out that you didn't get to chase sub 2 in an outdoor race this season. So you head down to the local track, bust out a solo time trial on pure hate, and end up with a self-timed 1:59.0.
Would you count that as a PR and as your first sub 2? If someone asks you what your PR is in the 800, would you say 1:59?
Depends if you were wearing Carbon Fiber plated footwear.
Track meets got canceled:( wrote:
So let's say that you're feeling great and were scheduled to race an 800 later this month, but it got cancelled.
Your PR is 2:03, and you're bummed out that you didn't get to chase sub 2 in an outdoor race this season. So you head down to the local track, bust out a solo time trial on pure hate, and end up with a self-timed 1:59.0.
Would you count that as a PR and as your first sub 2? If someone asks you what your PR is in the 800, would you say 1:59?
Since all results are online now, you would have to add the caveat that it was in practice which taints it a little.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Track meets got canceled:( wrote:
So let's say that you're feeling great and were scheduled to race an 800 later this month, but it got cancelled.
Your PR is 2:03, and you're bummed out that you didn't get to chase sub 2 in an outdoor race this season. So you head down to the local track, bust out a solo time trial on pure hate, and end up with a self-timed 1:59.0.
Would you count that as a PR and as your first sub 2? If someone asks you what your PR is in the 800, would you say 1:59?
Since all results are online now, you would have to add the caveat that it was in practice which taints it a little.
If someone videotaped your time trial, would it count?
imagine running a distance on a track in a faster time than you'd ever done it before and not considering it a pr. bunch of madlads.
I wouldn't count anything self timed. Your giving yourself a couple tenths in reaction time off the bat.
That being said if I were to run a new PR in a self timed time trial, whenever someone asked me my PR it would be followed with a "but I ran a 1:59 solo time trial." I would hope that I got to run that time or better in a real certifiable race at a later point so I could stop adding that lame caveat.
That's just me, it's your PR, count it however you want.
I would count anything on the track, since the distance can be relied on to be exact. As long as the distance is at least 800m, I wouldn’t worry about the self timing thing.
I would not use GPS data. Not accurate enough.
If you run it under the same conditions as a meet (i.e., you're starting and finishing in the right place, standing start, etc.) and you're making a legit effort to time it properly then yes, it's your PR. Honestly, if you can PR in conditions like that then it's not going to last long anyway. You'll easily beat it when you get in an actual race.
This is assuming it's 800 and above. Anything less I'd be too concerned about timing issues.
It wouldn't be certified, but you can use it for training purposes and picking up women at the bars.
Up to you and your personal sense of honor. Technically my fastest 3200 was a solo time trial.
Kung Pow Chicken wrote:
It wouldn't be certified, but you can use it for training purposes and picking up women at the bars.
Hey girl, I can finish in under two minutes. By myself.
No, it is not your PR.
Part of the record involves race conditions.
They do not let people try to lift weights unlimited times for their PRs in competition, for example.
I would not count it wrote:
I wouldn't count anything self timed. Your giving yourself a couple tenths in reaction time off the bat.
That being said if I were to run a new PR in a self timed time trial, whenever someone asked me my PR it would be followed with a "but I ran a 1:59 solo time trial." I would hope that I got to run that time or better in a real certifiable race at a later point so I could stop adding that lame caveat.
What if you added half a second to account for this? In the OP's scenario, he could still say he ran a 1:59 since his time was 1:59.0 and not 1:59.9.
sunflower wrote:
If you run it under the same conditions as a meet (i.e., you're starting and finishing in the right place, standing start, etc.) and you're making a legit effort to time it properly then yes, it's your PR. Honestly, if you can PR in conditions like that then it's not going to last long anyway. You'll easily beat it when you get in an actual race.
This is assuming it's 800 and above. Anything less I'd be too concerned about timing issues.
Not necessarily. My 1000 PR was set in a workout since I've never raced it outdoors, and because it's nearly impossible to find an outdoor 1K race on a track. Technically, my 2 mile PR was also set in a workout since I only raced the 3200 and never the full 3218+m.
On a somewhat related note, suppose your 1600 or mile PR is 4:14, but the fastest you've run in an actual 1500m race is 4:01. Would you say that you're a sub 4 1500 guy? It's impossible to run a 4:14 1600 or mile without running a 1500 meter segment of that race in under 4 flat.
Let me put it this way.
If you measured out an accurate track or ran on an actual track, set up a piecemeal timing system and recorded it all on video, it would be easier for people to spectate.
Also, if you did this well and other people followed we could change the sport. Success removes the current necessity of institutions and wields power over price gouging services like flotrack, runnerspace and milesplit. We can drop athletic.net and toofers too. You dont need the best camera. Commercial dad cams and phone equipment would suffice.
Ultimately spectators are the ones who develop intrinsic respect for someone doing something of athletic nature. Hytek and meet management services provide results that we often accept as something that abided by the same ruleset. This is your own chance to not just continue running but create something new.
Evan Spiegel, Mark Zuckerberg alert!!!!
Great. You got me there. But to be honest I don't really care. If you're trying to set PRs in distance events (and are worried about seconds or fractions of a second) and if you can PR in practice and you can't replicate it in a race then something isn't right.
I remember multiple times in high school where we'd run a time trial on the track at the end of cross country season and I'd beat a track PR by 10+ seconds. I would consider that my PR and I always significantly bettered it the following season. If you're in high school and growing you're going to be in PR shape all the time.
I'm well past my PR days and to be honest I'm not 100% sure what my PRs are to better than +/- 3 seconds. I was fast enough to know I wasn't that fast. No one has asked what my PRs were in 10+ years. Get over it. Your PRs are for you. We aren't talking about world records here or 1 off events where you can have a lucky jump or throw that went perfectly and is hard to replicate in competition. In distance running you need the competition to make you run faster.
Since, and only since, all meets are canceled, yes. Nobody but you will care anyway.
If you can’t provide results from a legitimate source little to few will believe you and, thus, does not count.
Once overheard a guy in his 50s tell a coworker that he ran a 4:00 mile the previous week.