Looks like we’ll see him at the Olympics ..... if they happen
Looks like we’ll see him at the Olympics ..... if they happen
He’s not guaranteed an Olympic spot yet, apparently, pending next week’s Lake Biwa marathon
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Alis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Silly. Just more bile from the envious.
What it really means is "record for the genetically challenged ."
Surprised he is running in Rupp's trampoline shoes?
https://www.arabnews.jp/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/03/000_1PH2YP-1024x683.jpg
Osako is earning some crazy amount of money. Twice 1million USD in last 4 years. Chicago-boston-fakuoka bronze. Plus nike contract and appearance fees. Is he earning more than Rupp right now?
Alberto wrote:
Alis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Silly. Just more bile from the envious.
What it really means is "record for the genetically challenged ."
Are you really saying that the rampant doping problem in East Africa is caused by genetics?
Shocking.
Alis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Lol, clean? Osako is a former NOP guy and still gets coached by Pete Julian, there are actually more reasons to assume he is not clean than for many random east africans faster than him.
The clean world record according to the logic of this board probably goes to Yuta Shitara in 2:06:11, because Moen (trains in Kenya) and da Costa (neither that good before nor after, so too good to be true) certainly can't count as well.
Bib #1 wrote:
He’s not guaranteed an Olympic spot yet, apparently, pending next week’s Lake Biwa marathon
Someone would have to run faster than Osako's 2:05:29, so while it is not impossible (after all there are some heavy responders to the shoes like Toshiki Sadakata, who ran 2:07:05 off 13:58/28:47/62:40 on sunday) it's highly unlikely it happens.
the doped shoes wrote:
Surprised he is running in Rupp's trampoline shoes?
https://www.arabnews.jp/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/03/000_1PH2YP-1024x683.jpg
If you're going to count a race with those shoes, you should honestly probably count Hall's sub-2:05 in the tailwind Boston year.
Alberto wrote:
Alis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Silly. Just more bile from the envious.
What it really means is "record for the genetically challenged ."
Funny how those "genetically gifted" athletes need Italian coaches, EPO, and clown shoes to compete with the rest of the world. Interesting...
this is prob the REAL WR.....but to say this is somehow racist....like i never understood it, asians get the shaft all the time
....... wrote:
Alis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Lol, clean? Osako is a former NOP guy and still gets coached by Pete Julian, there are actually more reasons to assume he is not clean than for many random east africans faster than him.
The clean world record according to the logic of this board probably goes to Yuta Shitara in 2:06:11, because Moen (trains in Kenya) and da Costa (neither that good before nor after, so too good to be true) certainly can't count as well.
Bib #1 wrote:
He’s not guaranteed an Olympic spot yet, apparently, pending next week’s Lake Biwa marathon
Someone would have to run faster than Osako's 2:05:29, so while it is not impossible (after all there are some heavy responders to the shoes like Toshiki Sadakata, who ran 2:07:05 off 13:58/28:47/62:40 on sunday) it's highly unlikely it happens.
I don’t know if calling Sadakata just a high responder to shoes is justified. I mean, Kawauchi has similar shorter distance PRs and he ran 2:08 without shoes
runthecountry wrote:
the doped shoes wrote:
Surprised he is running in Rupp's trampoline shoes?
https://www.arabnews.jp/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/03/000_1PH2YP-1024x683.jpgIf you're going to count a race with those shoes, you should honestly probably count Hall's sub-2:05 in the tailwind Boston year.
Well, Hall is the fastest American over the distance in a Marathon Major.
Slow-mo footage of Osako's foot-strike is found at 5:07 in the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-D_3bkLrLc&feature=youtu.beAlis L wrote:
"Non-African-Born Record"
That's a clumsy way to say "clean world record."
Not really, remember that he comes from NOP...
They're not envious. Fortunately, they're not suffering from denial and a narrow minded point of view on the world like you are.
the doped shoes wrote:
runthecountry wrote:
If you're going to count a race with those shoes, you should honestly probably count Hall's sub-2:05 in the tailwind Boston year.
i have been slightly curious on this "high responders" to the cheater shoes....after watching this vid i can explain it to all you noobs
proper running form has your foot plant landing with a slight elevation of the heel and all the weight landing coordinately on the ball of the foot to the toes, then a flex in the toes and a push off.
weak uncoordinated runners are heel strikers or flat landers (this leads to foot, heel, calf, knee, hip and back problems). the proper way to run in these shoes as this jap shows is perfect landing form. if you notice KB, kip and mo all run like this no matter what. land in the shoe as if you are running in spikes. well slugs heel strike or flat land in spikes so these shoes wont help them.
there was a shoe that had this very VERY similar idea to improve sprinting and vert, but they were super heavy...anyone remember these?
http://www.strength-shoes.com/so no there isnt high responders to cheater shoes and low responders. all there is, is weak uncoordinated heel strikers and people who run with PROPER form...those who run with proper form will go faster in these new nikes.
compare say a 1500 in hs two kids with equal PRs coming in, one is a heel striker the other has proper form. the heel striker wears trainers and the other kid wears spikes....spike kid will win duhhh
Well, Hall is the fastest American over the distance in a Marathon Major.
Slow-mo footage of Osako's foot-strike is found at 5:07 in the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-D_3bkLrLc&feature=youtu.be
Alis L wrote:
Alberto wrote:
Silly. Just more bile from the envious.
What it really means is "record for the genetically challenged ."
Funny how those "genetically gifted" athletes need Italian coaches, EPO, and clown shoes to compete with the rest of the world. Interesting...
As pointed out on JRN, Osako is represented by Federico Rosa and he did a stint in Kenya for his pre-race prep. Starting to see as many red flags as with Farah.
OK, who has the non-African-born all-time list? Feel free to use Hall's flat time, it's what I'd put for accurate comparison.
Historically, however, I remember when Boston time DID count for all purposes. Rodgers set 2 ARs there. Most Americans from that era considered times there to be PRs.
The half list is interesting too. I just don't have the data at my fingertips.
By the way, did someone get censored for using the first 3 letters of this guy's nationality as a complete word?
Notice how I avoided those letters in sequence?
Des Linden: "The entire sport" has changed since she first started running Boston.
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Ryan Eiler, 3rd American man at Boston, almost out of nowhere
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
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