One guy in the twitter comments insinuating that coburn is anti-Islamic. News flash: He’s just a lying cheat that happens to be Muslim, dumbaśs.
schmutzig wrote:
One guy in the twitter comments insinuating that coburn is anti-Islamic. News flash: He’s just a lying cheat that happens to be Muslim, dumbaśs.
Or implying she's racist?
Wowa there wrote:
schmutzig wrote:
One guy in the twitter comments insinuating that coburn is anti-Islamic. News flash: He’s just a lying cheat that happens to be Muslim, dumbaśs.
Or implying she's racist?
Yes, similar train of thought. Racist is the default answer for any side of the argument that has run out of bullets in this day and age.
What is Emma's handle here? Clearly part of the anti-Mo community here.
What aren’t BA handing over Farah’s samples to WADA for testing? If he is clean, the results will bear it out. BA’s stance makes absolutely no sense to me.
So Farah lied about taking a fully legal substance before a race and now he's guilty? Right...
Mo isn't an intelligent runner either. If you've ever heard him talk about running, you can tell he knows literally nothing about training plans. The guy just runs, and does what his coach tells him to. He did improve a lot when he joined up with Salazar, but did you see him run before? His form was all over the place.
I'm not defending or supporting anyone, just that the case so far is weak and needs stronger evidence for me to say he's a cheat.
newfakename23 wrote:
What is Emma's handle here? Clearly part of the anti-Mo community here.
Are there even any clear thinking pro-Mo community members remaining? One would have to be insane to maintain blind adulation after all the nonsense over the years.
Lying about broken doorbells
Lying about wherebouts
Lying about association with Aden
Throwing whistleblowers into lines of fire
[quote]mol_42 wrote:
So Farah lied about taking a fully legal substance before a race and now he's guilty? Right...
If someone has to lie about something that is legal what else are they lying about?
I don't know if Mo ever knowingly cheated by taking EPO etc. Do know he is a major liar, whose word is not to be trusted. His lies about Aden, L-Caritine, Kara Goucher etc. It's all part of a patter of habitual lying.
I will be rooting for Rhonex and Cheptegei over him 100%.
mol_42 wrote:
So Farah lied about taking a fully legal substance before a race and now he's guilty? Right...
Mo isn't an intelligent runner either. If you've ever heard him talk about running, you can tell he knows literally nothing about training plans. The guy just runs, and does what his coach tells him to. He did improve a lot when he joined up with Salazar, but did you see him run before? His form was all over the place.
I'm not defending or supporting anyone, just that the case so far is weak and needs stronger evidence for me to say he's a cheat.
Watch his 5000m heat from 2008 in Beijing, and then genuinely tell me that you thought he’d be a 3:28 man and double olympic champion only 5 years on.
Spade Defector wrote:
schmutzig wrote:
Yes, similar train of thought. Racist is the default answer for any side of the argument that has run out of bullets in this day and age.
Post reported for racism. You're probably Coevett too.
You’re only further emphasizing the premise of my post.
schmutzig wrote:
Watch his 5000m heat from 2008 in Beijing, and then genuinely tell me that you thought he’d be a 3:28 man and double olympic champion only 5 years on.
What about his performance at the 2006 Commonwealth games?
He was 9th behind two no-name Tanzanians. A few years later he was invincible.
Joplas wrote:
schmutzig wrote:
Watch his 5000m heat from 2008 in Beijing, and then genuinely tell me that you thought he’d be a 3:28 man and double olympic champion only 5 years on.
What about his performance at the 2006 Commonwealth games?
He was 9th behind two no-name Tanzanians. A few years later he was invincible.
I love watching that race. I'm always shocked how far back Mo finished. No way that guy becomes unbeatable a few years later. Suspect on Mottram and Choge as well.
Of course not! But it is possible he was a very talented guy who simply needed some coaching.
I remember at London 2012 the BBC (Steve Cram i think?) did a feature comparing Mo 2008 vs Mo 2012 in terms of running economy / form etc. The difference was night and day.
true dicslosure wrote:
She's become another shrill voice. She believes her own press way too much. She's the past of the steeple in the US and she realize it. Now she's just going the Kara route for attention.
Her coach/husband has major issues too.
Yeah, social media makes it too easy to take shots at people. The only result from her tweet will be that she and Mo will glare at eachother if their paths cross in Tokyo.
Mo is a liar . He is also a very stupid liar .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7DrNJFdCk8schmutzig wrote:
Watch his 5000m heat from 2008 in Beijing, and then genuinely tell me that you thought he’d be a 3:28 man and double olympic champion only 5 years on.
This was 2005 and the guy runs about as badly as I do. I think we have to give some benefit of the doubt that he has actually improved A LOT as a runner... and it wasn't JUST some magic pills.
Time will tell, but still giving him benefit of the doubt for now...
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I think we want to make excuses for NOP & Mo because it's fun to watch people run fast & we want to believe the athletes are outworking everyone else in the sport & are getting their results clean. It's just getting harder & harder to be a fan when stuff like this comes out. Sure, this isn't evidence of him taking EPO but he's lying about USADA & not putting L-Carnitine down on his list of supplements. Why would someone with nothing to hide do that? I don't even think the very best doping apologists have an answer to that question. They'll just keep pivoting to no drug busts & no evidence of the use of a banned substance. Mo & NOP's behavior, however, has turned me completely off. I'm not naive enough to think that he's clean when he's doing stuff like this.