Kipchoge’s Car/Tire Comments Prove He’s An Idiot

Having difficulty PRing, huh? Just work a little harder and I'm sure these self confidence issues will pass.

What are you rambling about?

Agreed. The guy is an incredible runner and seems like a nice enough guy. I feel bad when I see him overreach and start to philosophize in public like that. Sort of like his comparing his Vienna run with man landing on the moon. A person shouldn't necessarily be expected to be a great athlete and a great thinker at the same time. Unfortunately, people who are at the top in one area are sometimes given too much of a pulpit, and expose their ignorance in other areas.

A lot of people think of Eliud as wise, when in reality there's just little to nothing happening between the ears. The same is true among a lot of elite runners, or elite athletes for that matter, which makes a lot of sense, given the nature of lives centered around games and doing the same thing every day. If you've ever gone on a run with Eliud or his contemporaries, you appreciate just how little they have to talk about, precisely because there's so precious little on their minds. Again, this is as true of Eliud as it is true of most of the company he keeps during the race.

No one in this thread is worthy enough to scrub the pig shet off of Eliud’s work boots! THAT we know for certain!

My eyes are still stuck from how hard I rolled them when I read this. Better tires get you better traction, but they don't have little propellers or extra motors inside them. And does Kipchoge not realize he contradicted himself?

"In Formula One, (tyre company) Pirelli issues tyres to all Formula One cars, but Mercedes are the best, why?" he posed.

"It is the engine. It’s the driver."

That's kind of the whole point. Neither Nike or the IAAF is issuing Alphaflys to every runner. Hamilton and his crew have access to the same technology as any other driver, not to mention whichever teammate (Rosberg, Bottas, whoever else) drives the exact same car as him.

Far be it from me to tell athletes to stick to their sport, but maybe that's best if this is the bilge that comes out.

Kipchoge was simply trying to say that the quality of the rocket fuel poured into the runner's engine will always be more important than the shoes.

Your failure to recognize that Kipchoge is being spoon-fed this garbage by his marketing team proves you're an idiot. Anyone who thinks he is actually coming up with any of this on his own is nuts. He's just saying what he's told to say.

couldnt be more obvious wrote:

Your failure to recognize that Kipchoge is being spoon-fed this garbage by his marketing team proves you're an idiot. Anyone who thinks he is actually coming up with any of this on his own is nuts. He's just saying what he's told to say.

So he's a pawn and a liar. That's even worse.

Choge has more girth than all you suckers combined.

Do be so mad that he stole your PR and your girl. It's petty...

I don't think he's an idiot, but he does need to stay in his own lane.

It's no worse than his "no human is limited (... but get me shoes with more %, faster course, more pacers to shield me, etc.)."

Then again, what is he going to say, it's the shoes?

The man like Paulo Coelho. Don't expect him to be too insightful?

What I took from his analogy is that, if you put any runner in the same shoes, they still would not beat Kipchoge or his times. I can’t really argue against that.

I can’t wrap my head around what the anti-AlphaFly crowd is trying to convince people to think.

Is it that the shoes give a benefit? Nike knows that. The benefit is in the NAME of the shoe.

Is it that Kipchoge is really just another run-of-the-mill 2:05 guy that would not have as many accomplishments without the shoes?

fudgeface wrote:

No one in this thread is worthy enough to scrub the pig shet off of Eliud’s work boots! THAT we know for certain!

In running, yes. In everything else, no.

You see, you my friend are the equivalent of the 1970's jock supporter. We all heard stories about super stars getting away with not going to classes, and being praised , etc. You are just using the same effort in long distance running.

I'll take an astronaut over a fast runner any day.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

What I took from his analogy is that, if you put any runner in the same shoes, they still would not beat Kipchoge or his times. I can’t really argue against that.

I can’t wrap my head around what the anti-AlphaFly crowd is trying to convince people to think.

Is it that the shoes give a benefit? Nike knows that. The benefit is in the NAME of the shoe.

Is it that Kipchoge is really just another run-of-the-mill 2:05 guy that would not have as many accomplishments without the shoes?

It's Kipchoge who's tried to minimize the importance of the shoes and every other advantage he's had in both sub-2 attempts. I think people are responding to that.

2:04:00, actually. Without the shoes.

mofarahnot wrote:

fudgeface wrote:

No one in this thread is worthy enough to scrub the pig shet off of Eliud’s work boots! THAT we know for certain!

In running, yes. In everything else, no.

You see, you my friend are the equivalent of the 1970's jock supporter. We all heard stories about super stars getting away with not going to classes, and being praised , etc. You are just using the same effort in long distance running.

I'll take an astronaut over a fast runner any day.

LOL....you are not worthy enough to scrub EK’s jock strap much less form an opinion on the content of his interviews in his 2nd language!

PRE-VAPORFLY:

Hamburg 2013: 2:05:30

Berlin 2013: 2:04:05

Chicago 2014: 2:04:11

London 2015: 2:04:42

Berlin 2016: 2:04:00

VAPORFLY:

London 2016: 2:03:05

Rio 2016: 2:08:44

Berlin 2017: 2:03:32

London 2018: 2:04:17

Berlin 2018: 2:01:39

London 2019: 2:02:37

basque wrote:

PRE-VAPORFLY:

Hamburg 2013: 2:05:30

Berlin 2013: 2:04:05

Chicago 2014: 2:04:11

London 2015: 2:04:42

Berlin 2016: 2:04:00

VAPORFLY:

London 2016: 2:03:05

Rio 2016: 2:08:44

Berlin 2017: 2:03:32

London 2018: 2:04:17

Berlin 2018: 2:01:39

London 2019: 2:02:37

Not sure if you're using this as an argument against the vaporfly, but a runner improving a minute from 2013 to 2016, and then having a breakthrough from 2016-2018 where he drops an additional minute and a half doesn't sound outlandish. Not saying the vaporflies don't provide a measurable benefit, but this n=1 isn't there evidence you're looking for. Kipchoge has still been dominant while everyone else has access to the shoes. He is still the marathon GOAT.