What is the real marathon world record time after we exclude all of the dopers who have and haven’t been caught?? 2:07?

I'd agree that 2:06* is about the limit of natural ability.

*in vaporflys

Moen, 2:05.48 at Fukuoka is my guess.

2:06:07

My pr is 2:23:07 and I know for a fact nobody has run faster clean. The true undoped wr is probably another several minutes slower.

I know plenty of fast guys but they have all experimented with marijuana so their times don’t count.

Koen Naert?

2:04. I hope doping doesn't give you more than 3 minutes.

I’m not saying there is no faster clean runner, but I have a LOT of respect for Meb and would be really saddened to know he cheated. Anyway, his 2:08:37 is clean in my book.

On a fastest course with perfect weather and pacers, 2:04:30 for non-VF.

Kenny Bekele DUH put some respek on his name

Mike Rossi's 3:11 at Via.

AlSal’s 2:08:13

Any guesses on the women’s time? 2:19?

FFF wrote:

Moen, 2:05.48 at Fukuoka is my guess.

lol, going by skin color, typical letrun-racism. if one non-african guy shouldn't be considered it's moen who trains in kenya with canova (who according to your logic also trains a lot of those doped up east africans). If you really want to go with the "all africans are doped"-claim ronaldo da costa's 2:06:05 or yuta shitara's 2:06:11 should be your answer (osako or rupp obviously can't be considered because nop).

Steve jones.

Run Colorado wrote:

I’m starting to think that the real record is probably 2:06-2:07. All of these “amazing talents” have clearly been doping for years.

2:01:39

FerriTim wrote:

Steve jones.

+1

Hopefully only for a few more months until Callum Hawkins breaks it.

1:59:40

one fifty nine wrote:

1:59:40

Yes, right sponsored by ineos, a chemical company with 60 billion in sales. Buying Sky team which is notorious for doping. Kip is part of the NN team of epo fan J Hermans. Just believe in fairytales.

Anything under 2.09 is specious without vaporfly, with vapor say 2.06-7

Dope works in running, cycling everywhere and in the end it pays the bills.

Note I do not agree with it, it is just what happens, if you don't close your eyes for it.