CBA qualified for NXN 10 times in a row

Yes according to the enrollment map they have the most ability to recruit from Atlantic City to Piscataway. Congrats to

CBA!!!!

NJ Fiasco wrote:

Yes according to the enrollment map they have the most ability to recruit from Atlantic City to Piscataway. Congrats to

CBA!!!!

CBA doesn’t recruit. You have to take an entrance exam to get in. Most of their runners have never run before high school and are failed soccer players who would get cut from all the other sports. Mileage and lots of loops turn them into good, but not great high school runners. Most of their teams have 1 or 2 studs and the rest are all 9:30-9:40 type runners who keep the spread tight and provide depth that most schools don’t have. The tradition and expectation of excellence helps to motivate the guys on the team each year. 10 NXN appearances in a row is impressive. Stop trying to put down a team with false claims.

yet they have had less than 5 athletes go on to have successful college careers.

peaking early wrote:

yet they have had less than 5 athletes go on to have successful college careers.

That is simply false but I am glad that people like you still carry that opinion. Not every high school runner from a good team is meant to go on to be an all-American in college. Good teams are good because of consistently solid runners and depth that can outlast other teams. You are correct in saying that not everyone has had success in college as a runner, but there are over 5 in the past 5 years that have had successful college careers at their respective schools. So congrats on your outdated​ bias

if it weren't for the success of the fm and saratoga girls CBA would not have qualified 10 years in a row. NXN over reacting and creating a region simply for ny has made the North east region a week region. If the best state was still in that region CBA would have missed some year.

Anyone have in depth knowledge of CBA's training?

futureHScoach wrote:

peaking early wrote:

yet they have had less than 5 athletes go on to have successful college careers.

That is simply false but I am glad that people like you still carry that opinion. Not every high school runner from a good team is meant to go on to be an all-American in college. Good teams are good because of consistently solid runners and depth that can outlast other teams. You are correct in saying that not everyone has had success in college as a runner, but there are over 5 in the past 5 years that have had successful college careers at their respective schools. So congrats on your outdated​ bias

Who?

peaking early wrote:

yet they have had less than 5 athletes go on to have successful college careers.

Not many of them were stars on their own. They were good because they ran well as a team, not as individuals up front. Same goes for FM.

Next year, LSA will be NE’s favorites, and Coe Brown Academy could end CBA’s NXN autoqualifying streak. Coe Brown finished 4th at NXR and has only 1 senior, LSA has only 2, and CBA has 3.

Is CBA a school where everyone has to participate in a varsity/jvsport, or is it volunteer joining? Roughly how many kids are on the team?

wtfbbq wrote:

peaking early wrote:

yet they have had less than 5 athletes go on to have successful college careers.

Not many of them were stars on their own. They were good because they ran well as a team, not as individuals up front. Same goes for FM.

You'd still expect many to eventually run fast times in college but it doesn't happen. Many point to Blaise Ferro as a success story but he's been constantly injured at NAU. In the Flotrack series the team jokes that he never runs. He's an extremely talented kid but the CBA training destroyed his body and he's likely never going to reach his potential.

Why do so many LR posters make false statements? CBA guys ran 9:08, 9:09, 9:11, and 9:15 in the 3200. That is 4 guys on one team at a D1 level who ran faster than any kid ran in 1/2 of the states.

Ferro has competed in the last 2 NCAA championships and has PRs of 13:50 and 28:22. If that isn't success, nothing is.

CBA boys rule the world wrote:

Why do so many LR posters make false statements? CBA guys ran 9:08, 9:09, 9:11, and 9:15 in the 3200. That is 4 guys on one team at a D1 level who ran faster than any kid ran in 1/2 of the states.

Ferro has competed in the last 2 NCAA championships and has PRs of 13:50 and 28:22. If that isn't success, nothing is.

Ferro has never made it to NCAAs on the track. He's never even run in an NCAA regional meet on the track. He runs fast times then gets hurt and can't finish the season. He only ran 3 races this XC season and bombed at NCAAs.

He ran 9:13 as a freshman in high school, clearly an unbelievable talent. If his HS coaches took better care of him he'd be healthier and he'd be having a lot more success right now.

just curiouser wrote:

Is CBA a school where everyone has to participate in a varsity/jvsport, or is it volunteer joining? Roughly how many kids are on the team?

I was teammates in college with a kid from CBA. When he was in HS the kids would all run some sort of distance race, I forgot if it was a mile, mile and a half or something like that. Everyone who finished under a certain time was brought into a gym and the coaching staff would pitch joining the team to them.

I'm not sure if they still do that but it's a great strategy for recruiting and having that type of legacy will bring kids out.

cba wrote:

just curiouser wrote:

Is CBA a school where everyone has to participate in a varsity/jvsport, or is it volunteer joining? Roughly how many kids are on the team?

I was teammates in college with a kid from CBA. When he was in HS the kids would all run some sort of distance race, I forgot if it was a mile, mile and a half or something like that. Everyone who finished under a certain time was brought into a gym and the coaching staff would pitch joining the team to them.

I'm not sure if they still do that but it's a great strategy for recruiting and having that type of legacy will bring kids out.

Every September all freshmen run a 1.3 mile race and the top 40 or so get invited to join the xc team. Most of the time only a few kids from that group actually join who weren't on already, but the key is getting soccer players to join xc by their sophomore year. There is no mandatory athletic participation at all and completely voluntary, although students are encouraged to participate in some type of extracurricular activity.

name names wrote:

futureHScoach wrote:

That is simply false but I am glad that people like you still carry that opinion. Not every high school runner from a good team is meant to go on to be an all-American in college. Good teams are good because of consistently solid runners and depth that can outlast other teams. You are correct in saying that not everyone has had success in college as a runner, but there are over 5 in the past 5 years that have had successful college careers at their respective schools. So congrats on your outdated bias

Who?

The already mentioned Blaise Ferro (and if you cite injuries as a claim to not be successful even with his times, you are clearly wrong), Sean Martinek​ a 1:51 guy at Rutgers, Brian Dengler Xc success at Bucknell, Tim Gorman at Dartmouth/Oregon and sub 4 post-collegiate, George Kelly at Adams st and post-collegiate, Jack Boyle at Columbia, Noah Yuro solid at Richmond, and a bunch of other guys who have had simple average college careers making it 4 years at a competitive collegiate level.

I would argue that having the sheer number of collegiate athletes that CBA does is successful in and of itself. You are correct that most guys are not studs in college, I just think it is wrong to define success in the way you are. Once again it has always been depth that has made CBA great, not studs.

If we look at CBA's high school success and post high school success over the last 10 years, it ranks in the top 10 in the country. Yet the naysayers think the success is not enough.

I swear I feel I am reading what people say about York. Heard it all before, it is always wrong. CBA is a great XC powerhouse, just like York or FM.

greenliner wrote:

I swear I feel I am reading what people say about York. Heard it all before, it is always wrong. CBA is a great XC powerhouse, just like York or FM.

York missed the 10-peat for making NXN in 2013. Sad.