Anti-trans Hater Joe Rogan comes out against allowing ALL women participate in Women's Sports calling it a hill he'll die on

Sounds good to me.

this topics been done to death.

most people don't hate trans women or deny the legitimacy of their gender.

most people also understand that they should not compete in what was the traditional womens category of sport.

side note: Joe Rogan is a douche and his podcast is basically 2+ hours of drivel that could be edited down to 15 minutes of content.

most people don't hate trans women or deny the legitimacy of their gender.

most people also understand that they should not compete in what was the traditional womens category of sport.

Yes, the convenient "traditional" (i.e. cis) women dodge.

Just claiming "most people" have such an Anti-Trans ideology doesn't make it proper.

Either you allow all women to compete in their sport (which is a fundamental human right by IOC), or you are just being as discriminatory as previous generations.

This is almost the *definition* of hate, so your two statements are mutually contradictory.

Most sane people agree with him.

Sad. wrote:

Most sane people agree with him.

So does the OP, which is obvious with the tone they’ve taken.

Hopefully it will be a painful death.

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb wrote:

most people don't hate trans women or deny the legitimacy of their gender.

most people also understand that they should not compete in what was the traditional womens category of sport.

Yes, the convenient "traditional" (i.e. cis) women dodge.

Just claiming "most people" have such an Anti-Trans ideology doesn't make it proper.

Either you allow all women to compete in their sport (which is a fundamental human right by IOC), or you are just being as discriminatory as previous generations.

This is almost the *definition* of hate, so your two statements are mutually contradictory.

if you are unable or unwilling to recognize the biological advantages that trans women have and how this is unfair (and possibly dangerous) in womens sport then i dont know what to tell you.

dead horse wrote:

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb wrote:

Yes, the convenient "traditional" (i.e. cis) women dodge.

Just claiming "most people" have such an Anti-Trans ideology doesn't make it proper.

Either you allow all women to compete in their sport (which is a fundamental human right by IOC), or you are just being as discriminatory as previous generations.

This is almost the *definition* of hate, so your two statements are mutually contradictory.

if you are unable or unwilling to recognize the biological advantages that trans women have and how this is unfair (and possibly dangerous) in womens sport then i dont know what to tell you.

I don't believe this thread is about whether transgender females should be allowed to compete or not. Rather, its whether Rogan is an as*hole.

Why is something you disagree with automatically labeled as hate?

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb wrote:

most people don't hate trans women or deny the legitimacy of their gender.

most people also understand that they should not compete in what was the traditional womens category of sport.

Yes, the convenient "traditional" (i.e. cis) women dodge.

Just claiming "most people" have such an Anti-Trans ideology doesn't make it proper.

Either you allow all women to compete in their sport (which is a fundamental human right by IOC), or you are just being as discriminatory as previous generations.

This is almost the *definition* of hate, so your two statements are mutually contradictory.

It's not discriminatory to set testosterone limits on athletes. Otherwise you allow non trans athletes to dope. If trans women can reduce their testosterone to meet the standard then they are free to compete. There's no hate. There's no discrimination. It's just following the rules.

You (and to be fair, just about everyone who talks about this topic) misses the big picture. The big picture is that there are doping controls in place to prevent cheating. Someone who is born a male will naturally produce significantly more testosterone than someone born a female. There's nothing wrong with the male transitioning to a female in my opinion, but they must be required to lower the testosterone level to whatever the athletic body has on the books. That's the big picture. It's not discrimination. It's fair. Otherwise you open the door for those born as females to take testosterone drugs and then everyone is a doper.

It can never be "unfair" to exclude some women, from women's sports. It's basically a definition.

So now the argument has now become: We Must Remove Biological Advantages From Women's Sport.

Or maybe claiming that trans-women have the "wrong" kind of bio-advantages.

His podcast is a complete nonsense area wrote:

You don’t let a five-year-old pick their outfit why would you let them pick their gender.

Huh? My 3-year-old picks her own outfits daily. Does that make her gay? I really don’t understand the new rules people spout off nowadays.

His podcasts are great. He is just expressing a opinion and his message isn't hateful.

If someone is born a male and the aren't happy everyone else shouldn't have to participate in their fantasy of trying to change into a female.

0/10

things you disagree with are not "hate"

grow up snowflake

Sounds like Rogan is a clear thinking fellow.

Um, transgender is not a woman. That's not a difficult concept to grasp. Choose another cause to rant about. I'm sorry they feel like they're women, but they're not. I'm sorry they feel like women trapped in a man's body. That doesn't make them women. Use some common sense.

Take it easy with the SJWing

Rogan welcomed comedian Greg Fitzimmons to the podcast and the topic of transgender MMA fighters came up

Err... why?

I find the whole cis label offensive. Where do you get off with such hate?