Yeah right. Let me guess: a very tough internal investigation, with no details published, that will result in "nothing to see here".
?
Aren’t the NOP athletes already the most tested athletes on the face of the earth.
What does “investigate” mean?
Is it simply a PR effort to that they can say: We “investigated” them and we did not find any wrong doing,
A bit silly if you ask me.
KAV wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50286638
How can they being doing this? Haven't we heard from rekrunner that the possibility NOP athletes might have doped is all "imagination" and "fantasyland"? Why don't they simply accept the AAA panel finding of "no evidence" as the last word on the question - as he does? Perhaps their logic in seeking answers to this question is superior to his.
WADA has tipped the athletes off that they will be tested. They knew this was coming. Why do you think why they were boozing in Europe so hard in October? They're flushing that sh&t out of their blood.
Any time I hear an athlete or group referred to as the "most tested athlete (s) on Earth" I instantly assume they are doping.
WaddleOn wrote:
Any time I hear an athlete or group referred to as the "most tested athlete (s) on Earth" I instantly assume they are doping.
Yes, and anytime I hear about whole countries not being able to test OOC I assume that their athletes are clean.
casual obsever wrote:
Yeah right. Let me guess: a very tough internal investigation, with no details published, that will result in "nothing to see here".
Unfortunately, I think this is how the “investigation” will end up. WADA just wants to create the appearance of doing something. Like the Jama Aden saga, where a police raid literally found 19 syringes pre-loaded with EPO, Aden was arrested, but nothing happened to the athletes.
And the process against Aden has been lacking. Swedish news this morning claimed that Umeå University has developed a new method of discovering blood doping, could be exciting. I have no clue if it counters microdosing though.
Nothing will come out of this given that all but one of the athletes represent Western countries. Hopefully it, at least, scares them straight.
Will Kara be investigated as well? Or only current NOP?
LoneStarXC wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Yeah right. Let me guess: a very tough internal investigation, with no details published, that will result in "nothing to see here".
Unfortunately, I think this is how the “investigation” will end up. WADA just wants to create the appearance of doing something. Like the Jama Aden saga, where a police raid literally found 19 syringes pre-loaded with EPO, Aden was arrested, but nothing happened to the athletes.
or it will be like the tyson gay incident. he was busted, it was said he helped out being a whistle blower or whatever and was given a seriously reduced length on his ban. it was never disclosed what roids/PEDs he was on.
my guess is rupp will claim his achillies is bad and do a 1.5year or so "silent ban", missing the olympics. centro will either come down with some "virus" or phantom injury and serve a "silent ban" as well. unless one of them squeals i dont think you will see them in the trials. we all know ruppy poop has stockholm syndrome so him squealing is unlikely.
but yeah i see those two having "silent bans" with phantom injuries to cover it up. centro will then go nick symmonds style with the social media whoring whereas antisocial on the spectrum ruppy poop will highly likely go down the same route as gerry lindgren....without running and been a prisoner of al sal his whole life, he doesnt know what life really is
banned i got wrote:
or it will be like the tyson gay incident. he was busted, it was said he helped out being a whistle blower or whatever and was given a seriously reduced length on his ban. it was never disclosed what roids/PEDs he was on.
USADA was clear on it being DHEA.
https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/AAA-decision-Drummond-December-2014.pdfThere are no silent bans. Not anymore.
LoneStarXC wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Yeah right. Let me guess: a very tough internal investigation, with no details published, that will result in "nothing to see here".
Unfortunately, I think this is how the “investigation” will end up. WADA just wants to create the appearance of doing something. Like the Jama Aden saga, where a police raid literally found 19 syringes pre-loaded with EPO, Aden was arrested, but nothing happened to the athletes.
Literally?
Perhaps nothing will come out of this, but not for the reason you give.
Hello,
I have a practical question, which is, "What resources, expertise, and ability to thoroughly investigate athletes does WADA have that surpasses what USADA has?
It is an open ended question as I truly do not know what kinds of resources and staff WADA has. It seems like previous WADA investigations I am familiar with have been done because the local ADA was either incompetent (whether due to personnel or finance) or corrupt. Maybe the same could be said of USADA, but that doesn't appear obvious to me from what is known.
The only other sort of WADA hook I can come up with is the cross-jurisdictional nature of investigating some of these athletes.
Shorter Alberto: “Stop snitching”
“But..., but...., I just worked with Pete Julian , I don’t know who Alberto even is. “
Isn't this what we already knew just playing out? Bach said he would ask the questions to WADA for answers. And now Reedie responds by saying WADA will find out the answers and get back to Bach. This may very well be one outcome -- that WADA reviews the AAA panel findings, USADA's evidence, including the exhibits, witness testimonies, transcripts; Salazar's evidence; combined with athlete data in ADAMS, and accepts the thoroughness USADA's investigation and the AAA Panel findings. In the meantime, for uninformed fans like you, without the benefit of all this extra data, you can imagine and fanatasize about many things which have little to do with the evidence and findings already accumulated, or resembling any new evidence and findings yet to be made public.
Armstronglivs wrote:
How can they being doing this? Haven't we heard from rekrunner that the possibility NOP athletes might have doped is all "imagination" and "fantasyland"? Why don't they simply accept the AAA panel finding of "no evidence" as the last word on the question - as he does? Perhaps their logic in seeking answers to this question is superior to his.