Canadian sub-elite (David Freake) busted for EPO and other stuff

That is just lame if you need to be doped to the gills for a 2:33 marathon!

That's ridiculous but not surprising. You see a couple of questionable jumps in performance at the sub elite level, especially if they are on the cusp of making the trials. It all goes back to ego or any of the other reasons people need to feel validated by cheating at a hobby.

If you look at the disparity between what he reported himself prior to the official CCES announcement you'll see he is dealing with a deep mental illness.

Where does a Newfie get EPO?

Sounds like the opening of a joke. But yeah, this is depressing. 2:30+ marathoners taking EPO?

I kind of feel sad for the guy. Running must literally be all he's got going on for self worth. He lists himself as working as account manager for a drug company but apparently that is fake. Cheating at a hobby - just typing that sounds ridiculous!

WhatDaHeck wrote:

So this Canadian sub-elite David Freake (2:30 marathoner) just got busted for EPO and other banned substances. This is incredibly depressing and I can't see what might motivate someone to dope for no real reason (other than ego)?? What the heck is the sport coming to? See articles below in the news and official release from doping control Canada:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/local-runner-fails-drug-test-1.5326713https://www.cces.ca/news/athletics-athlete-suspended-presence-multiple-substances

How the heck does a 2:33 guy get tested for EPO?

Looks like he won the Toronto Marathon, so that's probably why he got tested.

Lot of guessing, but someone had to be tipped off.

He caught at the 10km road champs after dropping due to "injury".

Likely told he was going to be tested post race, knew he was glowing and dropped to try to get out of it.

Only reason I could see them testing a sub-elite who doesn't factor.

Also to be fair, his 1:08 half is a bit more impressive then his 2:33 full

I see that the hobby joggers of St John's have found Letsrun. Why don't you focus on producing slightly less embarrassing times in the Tely than bullying Freake online.

Anyway, everyone with any sense knows exactly who created this thread. For the record, I detest doping and what it's done to our sport but anyone with any sense should know better than to be posting about this here.

People cheat in pick up basketball games and little league baseball and soccer. It's human nature

So the guy lied to the press? "He said he told the officer he had taken some medication but didn't knowingly take anything banned, he told CBC."

So the guy acts like hew as banned fro nasal spray but in reality they found EPO in his system? EPO just doesn't inadvertently get into your system like maybe a nasal spray for the flue would .

And another one bites the dust. And it’s good that they’re testing sub-elites. Doping needs to be tackled at all levels of the sport.

This dude was also taking GW-501516, aka cardarine. That stuff is dangerous. Another drug he was taking, DNP, has a high acute toxicity. He’s lucky he got busted before he literally doped himself to death.

rojo wrote:

So the guy lied to the press? "He said he told the officer he had taken some medication but didn't knowingly take anything banned, he told CBC."

So the guy acts like hew as banned fro nasal spray but in reality they found EPO in his system? EPO just doesn't inadvertently get into your system like maybe a nasal spray for the flue would .

He also told the press he hopes to appeal, but the CCES report states he waived his right to a hearing. If it really was nose spray, I don’t know why he wouldn’t request a hearing and at the very least beg for mercy (a 230 marathon inadvertently taking nose spray would be a good case for mercy, even though I doubt that’s the case here)

This is pretty poor reporting by the CBC, to leave his claims and excuses completely unchallenged.

So he says it was nose spray, be a reporter and ask more question, “what kind” “where did you get” “was it prescribed” etc

LoneStarXC wrote:

This dude was also taking GW-501516, aka cardarine. That stuff is dangerous. Another drug he was taking, DNP, has a high acute toxicity. He’s lucky he got busted before he literally doped himself to death.

Given the laundry list of things in his system I highly doubt it all came from “nose spray”

YMMV wrote:

How the heck does a 2:33 guy get tested for EPO?

On the elite athlete list for the Ottawa marathon race weekend.

CCES would have randomly selected a number of athletes from the elite pool prior to the race (but wouldn't inform the athletes until after the race).

Dropping out (or running a crappy race) wouldn't negate that random selection.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

This dude was also taking GW-501516, aka cardarine. That stuff is dangerous. Another drug he was taking, DNP, has a high acute toxicity. He’s lucky he got busted before he literally doped himself to death.

Given the laundry list of things in his system I highly doubt it all came from “nose spray”

Of course not. Some “nose sprays” contain glucocorticoids, like Flonase is fluticasone and Nasacort is triamcinalone, which are banned IC (although only when “administered

by oral, intravenous, intramuscular or rectal routes”).

Freake did not test positive for any glucocorticoids, however (which doesn’t necessarily mean he wasn’t taking them). And seeing as an EPO/cardarine/DNP/ephedrine cocktail does not and will never exist, this is just another lame doping excuse that belongs in the lame doping excuse museum, next to Baumann’s toothpaste and Yvelain’s EPO puddle.

tbf an "oral nasal decogestant" is not a nose spray. That's like, sudafed or something. A pill or liquid taken orally. He tested positive for ephedrine, which is likely the oral nasal decongestant.

Creaky Bones wrote:

tbf an "oral nasal decogestant" is not a nose spray. That's like, sudafed or something. A pill or liquid taken orally. He tested positive for ephedrine, which is likely the oral nasal decongestant.

Oral nasal decongestants may contain pseudoephedrine, which is different than ephedrine, which is a stimulant used to raise blood pressure and as a bronchodilator. Both are classified as stimulants by WADA and banned IC.