SHELBY MF HOULIHAN

That is sick but more impressive will be the bronze she gets .

We’ll see about Hassan—I honestly reckon someone with her range is clean

manbearpig11 wrote:

That is sick but more impressive will be the bronze she gets .

Kipyegon and Tsegay are on waaaay more dope than Hassan.

Chobits wrote:

manbearpig11 wrote:

That is sick but more impressive will be the bronze she gets .

Kipyegon and Tsegay are on waaaay more dope than Hassan.

Both and.

All three are doped to the gills.

Of course, so is Houlihan.

Shelby was clearly in better shape than her 3:57 PR indicated last year. Dipping under 3:55 with this type of pacing is right on the money. No way she is on anything. I think Simpson would agree and she is as skeptical as anyone on the planet. Shelby just has all the tools and a great coach. Centro will run well tomorrow, might even medal.

almost all the women in that race were doped to the gills,but it wasnt as bad as the mens shot put,which was even worse.

YMMV wrote:

No way she is on anything. I think Simpson would agree and she is as skeptical as anyone on the planet. Shelby just has all the tools and a great coach. Centro will run well tomorrow, might even medal.

If she's an African though, you guys will be accusing her of doping.

And Centro was coached by Salazar as well.

Great run, but she really wasn't in a medal contention....Imagine if she had actually raced this year how fast she would have gone.

Faith is clean, and has always run within her strength and ability, as well as Muir.

Sledge_Hammer wrote:

YMMV wrote:

No way she is on anything. I think Simpson would agree and she is as skeptical as anyone on the planet. Shelby just has all the tools and a great coach. Centro will run well tomorrow, might even medal.

If she's an African though, you guys will be accusing her of doping.

And Centro was coached by Salazar as well.

Once East Africa has the same level of testing of the U.S., and can manage to not produce another bust every month, then I will consider that some of them might be clean. Same with Russia, Turkey, etc.. There is not a whiff of PED use with Shelby or the BTC, period.

YMMV wrote:

Sledge_Hammer wrote:

If she's an African though, you guys will be accusing her of doping.

And Centro was coached by Salazar as well.

. There is not a whiff of PED use with Shelby or the BTC, period.

The same was also true for Lance;

Sledge_Hammer wrote:

YMMV wrote:

. There is not a whiff of PED use with Shelby or the BTC, period.

The same was also true for Lance;

many whiffs and many positive tests before Lance was finally busted.

Sorry, Sledge, that's simply not true. There was a reeking stink around Lance for many, many years, in fact from the time of his first Tour victory.

YMMV wrote:

Shelby was clearly in better shape than her 3:57 PR indicated last year. Dipping under 3:55 with this type of pacing is right on the money. No way she is on anything. I think Simpson would agree and she is as skeptical as anyone on the planet. Shelby just has all the tools and a great coach. Centro will run well tomorrow, might even medal.

Shelby was the first clean runner across the line, period.

say what?! wrote:

Sledge_Hammer wrote:

The same was also true for Lance;

many whiffs and many positive tests before Lance was finally busted.

NO ONE who even casually followed cycling was surprised by Lance, any more than if/when the full Paula situation is exposed.

Funny how she sticks with old spikes.

It's always the mark and the range of improvement of the person one happens to support that is the first nonsuspicious one, isn't it?

YOOOOO wrote:

3:54???? YOOOOO

Shelby impressed me. She has great speed and being that close to the best is in itself evidence that she is in for the long haul.

I didn't expect Tsegay to medal but she did very well.

Chobits wrote:

manbearpig11 wrote:

That is sick but more impressive will be the bronze she gets .

Kipyegon and Tsegay are on waaaay more dope than Hassan.

Yes!

....and they lost to a clean(er) athlete.

Imagine what Hassan would do were she to dope (or dope more than them).

Wow!

MohammedAA wrote:

Chobits wrote:

Kipyegon and Tsegay are on waaaay more dope than Hassan.

Both and.

All three are doped to the gills.

Of course, so is Houlihan.

I totally agree. Houlihan is a Nike athlete and her jump in personal bests are too coincidental for her to be clean. We must not forget Jerry Schumacher was brought in by Salazar after his heart attack. He worked with AlSal for a while before they parted ways. He's as dirty as AlSal, and so are his athletes.