Athletics, when doping is the default

For how dirty Norway is with XC skiing, you guys sure talk a lot.

It's called selection bias. The only fans this sport has left are those who don't care any more that everybody dopes ( or rather the Africans who dominate are all doped).

Norway uber alles wrote:

For how dirty Norway is with XC skiing, you guys sure talk a lot.

Strange how a country can dominate XC skiing totally for almost 30 years and the only known dirty action is a lipgloss used with the best intentions and without the effect to boost the performance.

Aaleby wrote:

Norway uber alles wrote:

For how dirty Norway is with XC skiing, you guys sure talk a lot.

Strange how a country can dominate XC skiing totally for almost 30 years and the only known dirty action is a lipgloss used with the best intentions and without the effect to boost the performance.

Sure sure.... blood doping has been rife in every top country in XC skiing... and who dominates for 30 years? Norway...

30 years of clean athletes beating dopers. It's truly amazing!

Norwegian XC skiiers love their TUEs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EV0EC

Norway uber alles wrote:

Aaleby wrote:

Strange how a country can dominate XC skiing totally for almost 30 years and the only known dirty action is a lipgloss used with the best intentions and without the effect to boost the performance.

Sure sure.... blood doping has been rife in every top country in XC skiing... and who dominates for 30 years? Norway...

30 years of clean athletes beating dopers. It's truly amazing!

And there it is again... To be succesfull without cheating is once again impossible, yet lots of cross country runner has been caught, noone from Norway despite the profesionalism of anti-doping Norway. Do you think this is systematic state doping? Is that why Norway manages to hide it for years to years to come? Or could it be that loads of more money, better coaches and higher numbers of active runners could be the simple answer?

LoneStarXC wrote:

Norwegian XC skiiers love their TUEs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EV0EC

Its legal and by no means nothing Norway tries to hide.

What's impossible is to have clean athletes systematically beating doped athletes. Have you heard of this guy, his name was Lance!?

Norway uber alles wrote:

What's impossible is to have clean athletes systematically beating doped athletes. Have you heard of this guy, his name was Lance!?

Lance cant be compared to cross country where just technology and knowledge with ski wax can be the difference of victory and failure.

In Norway we have more then 1000 active cross country clubs. More clubs then other countries has active runners. That makes a huge difference.

One question: If Warholm wins the WC and in the same time beats the WR, will you brand him as a simple cheater and doper?

Aaleby wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

Norwegian XC skiiers love their TUEs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EV0EC

Its legal and by no means nothing Norway tries to hide.

Technically, yes, TUEs are legal. But seeing as 70% of Norway’s Olympic skiing medals are won by supposed asthmatics (only 7.7% of the general population has asthma), and the fact that the Norwegian XC skiing team brought 6,000 doses of asthma medications to Pyeongchang, it seems obvious that there are some bogus TUEs being passed around. Norwegian XC skiing has a systematic doping problem.

Do you know the English word naive?

Aaleby wrote:

One question: If Warholm wins the WC and in the same time beats the WR, will you brand him as a simple cheater and doper?

Your logic is all wrong. You can’t win if you are not cheating. He won’t win if he’s not cheating.

What makes you think everyone is a "huge" fan of the sport? It's still possible to be interested in a sport without being a huge fan. For my part I have no interest in times run or records set anymore. It's impossible to evaluate how they compare with those of earlier eras. But I still can get interested in who makes national teams, who wins and places in competitions. There are athletes who I like, like seeing do well and who I hope are clean. And there are "lower" levels of the sport that are still very interesting.

You do know that the reason why is the impact training hard in the cold has to the lung? Thats why so many active athlets has it compared to the general population. One of the reasons why Norway decided to bring that many doses was logistic, to be sure to have enough in different bases in Pyeongchang.

The knowledge of astma medicine is that a doping test will be positive if an athlete takes a dose big enough to gain an advance and that the advance is minor any way.

One before the other wrote:

Aaleby wrote:

One question: If Warholm wins the WC and in the same time beats the WR, will you brand him as a simple cheater and doper?

Your logic is all wrong. You can’t win if you are not cheating. He won’t win if he’s not cheating.

Pathetic.

Smell the coffee wrote:

Do you know the English word naive?

Have you heard about jumping toy a conclusion?

Aaleby wrote:

Smell the coffee wrote:

Do you know the English word naive?

Have you heard about jumping toy a conclusion?

Got to give it to you, you're feisty for a fan of a sport where its best athlete got popped for steroids and served a ban. Yeah, yeah, we know... lip balm...

Norway uber alles wrote:

Aaleby wrote:

Have you heard about jumping toy a conclusion?

Got to give it to you, you're feisty for a fan of a sport where its best athlete got popped for steroids and served a ban. Yeah, yeah, we know... lip balm...

When you find that to be a valid argument. Thumbs up for you ?