Due to the enormous body of doping evidence against the East Germans in 76, should all of their Medals be DQ'd and Shorter given a retroactive second Olympic marathon gold?
Cierpinski especially, come on...
Due to the enormous body of doping evidence against the East Germans in 76, should all of their Medals be DQ'd and Shorter given a retroactive second Olympic marathon gold?
Cierpinski especially, come on...
We need to get Trump working on this.
Absolutely
In my book Shorter is the Gold medal winner already.
Shorter and his fan boys are just sore losers. It has been almost 50 years, give it a break.
DeBron Lames wrote:
We need to get Trump working on this.
^This.
#KAGA2020
Shorter needs to be retroactively banned for breaking amateur rules. Permanent. Take away all of his ill-gotten national titles. They are tainted.
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Shorter and his fan boys are just sore losers. It has been almost 50 years, give it a break.
You are not very bright. You really believe that 43 is almost 50? Just trying to educate you. I do believe that Shorter may have cheated too though.
kerkiffle wrote:
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Shorter and his fan boys are just sore losers. It has been almost 50 years, give it a break.
You are not very bright. You really believe that 43 is almost 50? Just trying to educate you. I do believe that Shorter may have cheated too though.
This is the first I've ever heard of that?
Yes, but only after he's dead.
Are you sure? wrote:
kerkiffle wrote:
You are not very bright. You really believe that 43 is almost 50? Just trying to educate you. I do believe that Shorter may have cheated too though.
This is the first I've ever heard of that?
In his autobiography he talks about one US 1500 runner(doesn't mention any names) bragging about the powers of steroids. Just food for thought.
Shorter Fan wrote:
Due to the enormous body of doping evidence against the East Germans in 76, should all of their Medals be DQ'd and Shorter given a retroactive second Olympic marathon gold?
Cierpinski especially, come on...
To me there's always been too much focus on Shorter - sure he was screwed out of a second gold, but he still has a gold and silver. Meanwhile Don Kardong, the rightful bronze medalist, still has nothing and yet few people ever seem to talk about that.
Yes, he should be given a retroactive drug test, and he'll probably fail.
This issue has been viewed over and over by the IOC and the answer is: No, it's too late for that, the statutory period expired for that long time ago, they are not interested in re-writing history. Get it over whiners.
dude who watched at Montreal wrote:
In my book Shorter is the Gold medal winner already.
Yes, but your book doesn't mean jack s. Even Shorter himself left it alone long time ago.
Do you he should be given the medal on the basis that their PEDs were better than his PEDs?
Just Another Run of the Mill ex-D1 er wrote:
Shorter Fan wrote:
Due to the enormous body of doping evidence against the East Germans in 76, should all of their Medals be DQ'd and Shorter given a retroactive second Olympic marathon gold?
Cierpinski especially, come on...
To me there's always been too much focus on Shorter - sure he was screwed out of a second gold, but he still has a gold and silver. Meanwhile Don Kardong, the rightful bronze medalist, still has nothing and yet few people ever seem to talk about that.
I agree and probably would a lot of other folks, but my guess is that whoever comes in 4th is just not as well-known.
But hey if it helps if Cierpinski were stripped then everyone gets "promoted" including Kardong.
However the IOC has made it pretty clear that it has no interest in going back that far even with the pretty damning evidence on Cierpinksi. It seems like every medal ever won by East Germany would need to be taken away. (Okay that might be a slight exaggeration).
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Shorter and his fan boys are just sore losers. It has been almost 50 years, give it a break.
43 years. Statute of limitation on fraud? I guess it doesn't matter if you weren't the one who was cheated. It would also be nice to correct history, where that is possible.
Just some food for thought wrote:
Are you sure? wrote:
This is the first I've ever heard of that?
In his autobiography he talks about one US 1500 runner(doesn't mention any names) bragging about the powers of steroids. Just food for thought.
So if I know a confessed doper that also makes me a doper? Bollocks.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Just some food for thought wrote:
In his autobiography he talks about one US 1500 runner(doesn't mention any names) bragging about the powers of steroids. Just food for thought.
So if I know a confessed doper that also makes me a doper? Bollocks.
No. It just shows that it wasn't just the USSR/east Germany doing it.